4 ms·
"Of course, they are allowed to do that, and noone can complain, but this is yet another push from Apple against VLC, that adds to the very long list of past is
by jonhendry 16y ago
"Of course, they are allowed to do that, and noone can complain, but this is yet another push from Apple against VLC, that adds to the very long list of past issues. It just makes me think Apple doesn't really want competition"
Maybe they don't want the hassle of dealing with flakey politics-ridden groups who don't have their shit together.
- jbk 16y agoSure, and maybe you could be polite... Or just try to understand what open source groups means...
- jonhendry 16y agoApparently "open source group" means "high maintenance and unprofessional goalpost-shifters who suffer the delusion that they are in charge".
- kindly 16y agoYou make open source groups sound a lot like apple.
- jonhendry 16y agoExcept when it comes to the App Store, Apple is in charge.
- lwhi 16y agoNo, if Apple decides to create a new marketplace - to which tens of thousands of small business have a stake; Apple has a duty to act in an impartial and fair manner. The fact that Apple created this economic space, doesn't give it the right to behave like a feudal overlord might have behaved in the Middle Ages. -- It's very much a case of 'who watches the watchmen'. An independent complaints or regulatory commission needs to be established which can be used to lodge complaints about unfair action within any privately created IP-focused marketplace. I believe that laws should be introduced to ensure that Apple (and Google / Blackberry etc.) would have to subscribe to any guidelines put forth by such a body.
- borski 16y agoUnfortunately that's just not true. While I agree that is "ideal" and the way it "should be," if I own a clothing retail store, and only want to sell designer Italian clothing, I'm allowed to. I don't also have to allow any and all Chinese, French, and American tailors to put their clothes in my shop.
- lwhi 16y agoApple in no way analogous to a retail clothing store; 1. They are not buying products for resale - they are providing a marketplace for other businesses to sell their own products. 2. The products that are created for the iOS AppStore cannot be sold anywhere else. Content creators can't vote with their feet - they're tied to using Apple's system. They have to invest in very specific technologies to participate in the Apple ecosystem. This creates a situation where Apple is provided with an unwarranted amount of power. Whether you agree with me or not - I strongly believe measures will be put in place which attempt to rectify the situation.
- lwhi 16y agoI realise asking for clarification often involves subsequent down-voting, but I'd like to continue the conversation.
- zaphar 16y agoContent creators can't vote with their feet - they're tied to using Apple's system. This is not true. There are other marketplaces. They the Content Creators are the ones who decided the AppStore was a necessity and they are perfectly capable of changing that. In fact on HackerNews we have in the past seen Content Creators do exactly that. Choosing a different distribution mechanism or a different platform entirely for their Content. Point 1 still stands but point 2 does not since it's too restrictive to be applied to the debate.
- lwhi 16y agoI'd heard that there are ways to circumvent the AppStore - but are these alternative AppStores economically viable? A couple of questions; 1. Could an application developer make a living by selling their Apps via the alternative mechanisms - and would a regular (non-technical) user, be able to obtain these Apps without much effort? 2. Could Apple decide to 'outlaw' these alternatives if it chose to?
- jbk 16y agoOpen Source means that this is a collaborative work where anyone can do what he wants with his copyright.