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VideoLAN Chairman and lead VLC developer here. You are wrong, ultimately, it was Apple decision. The complaint was done in October, and Apple removed it just n

by jbk 16y ago

VideoLAN Chairman and lead VLC developer here. You are wrong, ultimately, it was Apple decision. The complaint was done in October, and Apple removed it just now, after refusing to answer the questions and clarify the case.

st3fan 16y ago
You guys ASKED Apple to remove the app because of a license conflict, so that is what they did. Stop blaming Apple. It is you guys who started this.
- jbk 16y ago
  Who is "you guys"? Do you understand what are true open source communities without copyright assignment? Not to mention, that it is a 3rd party that uploaded the application, and that Apple distributed the application. One copyright holder asked filed a request for infringement, two months ago; and Apple has refused to help to discuss and solve the matter. And then, pulled the application... And, you don't see people from VLC complaining. I don't see why you are so aggressive on this matter.
  - jonhendry 16y ago
    "And, you don't see people from VLC complaining." But you say there is no VLC ("Who is 'you guys'?") from which people could complain. This just looks slippery, and is the sort of thing that is likely to discourage businesses from working with GPL code at all.
    - jbk 16y ago
      There is a non-profit organization, named VideoLAN, but that doesn't have rights over the source code copyrights.
  - melito 16y ago
    You have a part in authoring VLC, correct? You did not have a hand in authoring the iPad app, correct? You submitted a claim to Apple about clauses in the GPL not being compatible with the App Store's distribution model, correct? In my original statement, I don't think I made any point that could be considered "wrong". I stated one fact (a 3rd party developed the app) followed by my opinion. I'm sorry you don't think my opinion is 'correct', but that doesn't mean I'm going to bet against the proliferation of GPL'd software because of these actions.
    - jbk 16y ago
      > You have a part in authoring VLC, correct? Yes > You did not have a hand in authoring the iPad app, correct? Yes > You submitted a claim to Apple about clauses in the GPL not being compatible with the App Store's distribution model, correct? No. Because I personally think it is compatible with the GPL. But I need a clear answer from Apple to convince other developers, that don't think so.
moxiemk1 16y ago
(not attacking here, just curious) Have you been in contact with the company that developed the app? Honestly, I don't seem why Apple would feel like they need to discuss anything with you, because you're not the entity they are dealing with for the app.

by jbk 16y ago

st3fan 16y ago

You guys ASKED Apple to remove the app because of a license conflict, so that is what they did. Stop blaming Apple. It is you guys who started this.

jbk 16y ago
Who is "you guys"? Do you understand what are true open source communities without copyright assignment? Not to mention, that it is a 3rd party that uploaded the application, and that Apple distributed the application. One copyright holder asked filed a request for infringement, two months ago; and Apple has refused to help to discuss and solve the matter. And then, pulled the application... And, you don't see people from VLC complaining. I don't see why you are so aggressive on this matter.
- jonhendry 16y ago
  "And, you don't see people from VLC complaining." But you say there is no VLC ("Who is 'you guys'?") from which people could complain. This just looks slippery, and is the sort of thing that is likely to discourage businesses from working with GPL code at all.
  - jbk 16y ago
    There is a non-profit organization, named VideoLAN, but that doesn't have rights over the source code copyrights.
- melito 16y ago
  You have a part in authoring VLC, correct? You did not have a hand in authoring the iPad app, correct? You submitted a claim to Apple about clauses in the GPL not being compatible with the App Store's distribution model, correct? In my original statement, I don't think I made any point that could be considered "wrong". I stated one fact (a 3rd party developed the app) followed by my opinion. I'm sorry you don't think my opinion is 'correct', but that doesn't mean I'm going to bet against the proliferation of GPL'd software because of these actions.
  - jbk 16y ago
    > You have a part in authoring VLC, correct? Yes > You did not have a hand in authoring the iPad app, correct? Yes > You submitted a claim to Apple about clauses in the GPL not being compatible with the App Store's distribution model, correct? No. Because I personally think it is compatible with the GPL. But I need a clear answer from Apple to convince other developers, that don't think so.

moxiemk1 16y ago

(not attacking here, just curious) Have you been in contact with the company that developed the app? Honestly, I don't seem why Apple would feel like they need to discuss anything with you, because you're not the entity they are dealing with for the app.