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Amazon warehouse workers also have the option not to work there. Amazon is not forcing them to be there and Amazon does not owe someone a job any more than any

by javert 7y ago

Amazon warehouse workers also have the option not to work there. Amazon is not forcing them to be there and Amazon does not owe someone a job any more than any other business owes jobs to random people.

coldtea 7y ago
>Amazon warehouse workers also have the option not to work there. A, the evergreen, "since nobody puts a gun on your head, you're free to work elsewhere". Some people don't understand that limited job options, lack of skills (or money to increase them), need to feed a family, etc, are also "guns on the head". To understand how much, consider than people can sell their bodies (for sex), or even get into slave-like servitude with no pay, just to get something to eat. Heck, in poorer societies (and even western countries, not more than a century ago) people would even sell one or more of their kids to help feed the others (and of course, would send their 8-14 year old kids to work). Just because something is better than dying of hunger doesn't mean it's a "free choice" option. It's just, like avoiding getting shot from someone "holding a gun to your head" the best of shitty options.
- javert 7y ago
  I basically agree with you, but it's not Amazon's duty to solve that problem. In fact, by providing one more job option, they are helping slightly. It's the same as this old classic: Nike builds a shoe factory on a small island with subsistence agriculture and pays people almost nothing to make shoes. And people castigate Nike for that. But Nike hasn't done anything evil. They have given people one more option. If subsistence agriculture is better, people can go back to doing that instead of working in the shoe factory.
dkersten 7y ago
I have family members who literally have to take whatever job they can find because their options are severely limited, even if those jobs are really bad and no job at all would probably result in homelessness. Some people really don't have the option to "not work there" and it seems rather callous to suggest that.
- javert 7y ago
  The Amazon plant gives people one more option that they didn't have before.

by javert 7y ago

coldtea 7y ago

>Amazon warehouse workers also have the option not to work there. A, the evergreen, "since nobody puts a gun on your head, you're free to work elsewhere". Some people don't understand that limited job options, lack of skills (or money to increase them), need to feed a family, etc, are also "guns on the head". To understand how much, consider than people can sell their bodies (for sex), or even get into slave-like servitude with no pay, just to get something to eat. Heck, in poorer societies (and even western countries, not more than a century ago) people would even sell one or more of their kids to help feed the others (and of course, would send their 8-14 year old kids to work). Just because something is better than dying of hunger doesn't mean it's a "free choice" option. It's just, like avoiding getting shot from someone "holding a gun to your head" the best of shitty options.

javert 7y ago
I basically agree with you, but it's not Amazon's duty to solve that problem. In fact, by providing one more job option, they are helping slightly. It's the same as this old classic: Nike builds a shoe factory on a small island with subsistence agriculture and pays people almost nothing to make shoes. And people castigate Nike for that. But Nike hasn't done anything evil. They have given people one more option. If subsistence agriculture is better, people can go back to doing that instead of working in the shoe factory.

dkersten 7y ago

I have family members who literally have to take whatever job they can find because their options are severely limited, even if those jobs are really bad and no job at all would probably result in homelessness. Some people really don't have the option to "not work there" and it seems rather callous to suggest that.

javert 7y ago
The Amazon plant gives people one more option that they didn't have before.