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A dysfunctional legal department at Google. Who would have guessed? The founder/CEO Gates marrying someone in Marketing. The CEO of a software company I work

by 3xblah 7y ago

A dysfunctional legal department at Google. Who would have guessed? The founder/CEO Gates marrying someone in Marketing. The CEO of a software company I worked for having an affair with his secretary. This is what one had to tolerate to work in the software industry, and now has to tolerate to work in "tech". A complete absence of ethics and common sense. Pathetic. Other industries employing intelligent people are not like that, not to the same extent anyway.

solipsism 7y ago
Other industries employing intelligent people are not like that, not to the same extent anyway. Name one. The news here (if it's news to you) is that tech is not special like everyone once thought. Everyone thought tech was above that kind of thing. It turns out everyone in tech is just human, just like the rest of the world. The story here could not possible be more incredibly mundane and familiar and boring.
- 3xblah 7y ago
  "Everyone thought tech was above that kind of thing." That is news to me. Based on experience with the software industry in the 1990's, there was no reason for me to think that companies like Google would be any different.
cheez 7y ago
Is this really how negatively you view the world? This is what I tell my kids about dating people at work. "You guys have spent the first few years of adult life getting to the same place. You probably have similar values as a result. You probably even have similar values in your upbringing. Now you want to tell me that you should ignore people who have similar values to you and go meet random people at a bar or otherwise make your romantic life more difficult? It sounds kind of stupid." I used to work in a family office where inter-employee relationships were more or less encouraged. And this was the reason. More to your point though, with men having affairs with women who are "lower in status" at the company, I refer you to the following research: https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/aug16asrfeature.pdf https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/a... TL;DR: main determinants of divorce are NOT sharing of household chores, or a wife's financial independence, it is the lack of a job for the husband. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2... TL;DR: women consider strong men more attractive These combine to show that women are generally more attracted to men who are "strong" and have a job. In the context of work, there is a social hierarchy of men by default and those higher up would be considered stronger. It's not like these women are "helpless" to choose their mates. They want strong men. Don't treat them like children.
aaron695 7y ago
> The CEO of a software company I worked for having an affair with his secretary. Why do you think you have a right to talk about other peoples sex lives? You even sound like you want to manage by force (hard or soft) other peoples sex lives within your moral code. Not sure of your point exactly but it seems to be to me a complete absence of ethics really. Quite a horrifying one in a world with a past and present of people being persecuted because of their sex lives.
cafard 7y ago
What industries have you worked in? Long ago I worked for a magazine company where the owner came in drunk one day and chased an editor around the layout room. A photographer who freelanced for the company had been a professor until he ran off with a nineteen-year-old student. I could go on.

by 3xblah 7y ago

solipsism 7y ago

Other industries employing intelligent people are not like that, not to the same extent anyway. Name one. The news here (if it's news to you) is that tech is not special like everyone once thought. Everyone thought tech was above that kind of thing. It turns out everyone in tech is just human, just like the rest of the world. The story here could not possible be more incredibly mundane and familiar and boring.

3xblah 7y ago
"Everyone thought tech was above that kind of thing." That is news to me. Based on experience with the software industry in the 1990's, there was no reason for me to think that companies like Google would be any different.

cheez 7y ago

Is this really how negatively you view the world? This is what I tell my kids about dating people at work. "You guys have spent the first few years of adult life getting to the same place. You probably have similar values as a result. You probably even have similar values in your upbringing. Now you want to tell me that you should ignore people who have similar values to you and go meet random people at a bar or otherwise make your romantic life more difficult? It sounds kind of stupid." I used to work in a family office where inter-employee relationships were more or less encouraged. And this was the reason. More to your point though, with men having affairs with women who are "lower in status" at the company, I refer you to the following research: https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/aug16asrfeature.pdf https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/a... TL;DR: main determinants of divorce are NOT sharing of household chores, or a wife's financial independence, it is the lack of a job for the husband. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2... TL;DR: women consider strong men more attractive These combine to show that women are generally more attracted to men who are "strong" and have a job. In the context of work, there is a social hierarchy of men by default and those higher up would be considered stronger. It's not like these women are "helpless" to choose their mates. They want strong men. Don't treat them like children.

aaron695 7y ago

> The CEO of a software company I worked for having an affair with his secretary. Why do you think you have a right to talk about other peoples sex lives? You even sound like you want to manage by force (hard or soft) other peoples sex lives within your moral code. Not sure of your point exactly but it seems to be to me a complete absence of ethics really. Quite a horrifying one in a world with a past and present of people being persecuted because of their sex lives.

cafard 7y ago

What industries have you worked in? Long ago I worked for a magazine company where the owner came in drunk one day and chased an editor around the layout room. A photographer who freelanced for the company had been a professor until he ran off with a nineteen-year-old student. I could go on.