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Information Systems programs are commonly business degrees. At CMU, it is offered by the Dietrich College of Humanities and Social Sciences[0]. In aerospace and

by gbacon 7y ago

Information Systems programs are commonly business degrees. At CMU, it is offered by the Dietrich College of Humanities and Social Sciences[0]. In aerospace and defense, some employers and even the government do not value IS, MIS, or CIS degrees as highly because they are not considered engineering degrees like engineering proper, math, computer science, or physics. In those industries, the way to make up the difference is to complete an advanced degree from an accredited institution. Whether academia is responding to signals from industry, vice versa, or neither is an interesting theoretical question. In practical terms, one might argue that better route for those industries at least is to choose a degree with higher perceived value. [0]: http://coursecatalog.web.cmu.edu/schools-colleges/dietrichcollegeofhumanitiesandsocialsciences/informationsystems/ http://coursecatalog.web.cmu.edu/schools-colleges/dietrichco...

sk5t 7y ago
With the caveat that this doesn't contribute much to the discussion, H&SS was known as "H&Less Stress" to CIT folk ;)
stale2002 7y ago
> In aerospace and defense, some employers and even the government Fortunately, I wasn't talking about areospace, or defense, or whatever. The vast majority of people who come out of CMU, are not working in these very specific job areas, so they aren't relevant. Instead, they are working at SF tech companies like Facebook, and Apple, and the like. And if you look at the places that the Info Systems people go to, it turns out that the vast majority of them have the job title "Software Engineer", making a median salary of 90k$: https://www.cmu.edu/career/documents/2018_one_pagers/dc/Bachelors%20IS.pdf https://www.cmu.edu/career/documents/2018_one_pagers/dc/Bach... It turns out that a whole bunch of people with these degrees are able to get top software engineering jobs at top tech companies. > In practical terms, one might argue that better route for those industries at least is to choose a degree with higher perceived value. No, the facts show that a very effective way of getting a prestigious job, working at a top tech company, with the official job title of Software Engineer, is to get an Information Systems degree. The stats I showed, prove it.

by gbacon 7y ago

sk5t 7y ago

With the caveat that this doesn't contribute much to the discussion, H&SS was known as "H&Less Stress" to CIT folk ;)

stale2002 7y ago

> In aerospace and defense, some employers and even the government Fortunately, I wasn't talking about areospace, or defense, or whatever. The vast majority of people who come out of CMU, are not working in these very specific job areas, so they aren't relevant. Instead, they are working at SF tech companies like Facebook, and Apple, and the like. And if you look at the places that the Info Systems people go to, it turns out that the vast majority of them have the job title "Software Engineer", making a median salary of 90k$: https://www.cmu.edu/career/documents/2018_one_pagers/dc/Bachelors%20IS.pdf https://www.cmu.edu/career/documents/2018_one_pagers/dc/Bach... It turns out that a whole bunch of people with these degrees are able to get top software engineering jobs at top tech companies. > In practical terms, one might argue that better route for those industries at least is to choose a degree with higher perceived value. No, the facts show that a very effective way of getting a prestigious job, working at a top tech company, with the official job title of Software Engineer, is to get an Information Systems degree. The stats I showed, prove it.