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that's good to hear. I've been wanting to upgrade from my 2013 model, but the keyboards are so shit that I decided to wait. Might still not buy one if they sti

that's good to hear. I've been wanting to upgrade from my 2013 model, but the keyboards are so shit that I decided to wait. Might still not buy one if they still have a Touch Bar though (and omg, touch bar was automatically made uppercase...) Apple, I love you, but I hate you too.

chipotle_coyote 7y ago
What about if they have a touch bar but also have a hardware escape key? That's really the only thing about the touch bar Mac keyboard layout that I hate. (I don't actually mind the feel of the butterfly keys -- I'm typing on them now -- but I don't love them, either. Although if they kept this key feel, maybe just doubled the travel, and brought the reliability back in line with the older scissor switches, I'd be totally on board.)
- philwelch 7y ago
  Remap caps lock.
  - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
    I've gone back to remapping caps lock as a control key recently, so the two hacks conflict. :) (I know there are ways to remap the caps lock key to be both, depending on whether you tap it or hold it down with another key.)
    - philwelch 7y ago
      Remap control to escape!
      - deleted 7y ago
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  - SiVal 7y ago
    I wish I could remap my MBP arrowkeys to grow up and be full-sized keys...
    - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
      Well, you're at least halfway there with the butterfly keys, since their left and right arrow keys are full-sized and only the up and down keys are half-height! Mac laptops previously have had half-height arrow keys literally for two decades, going back to 1998's PowerBook G3.
- torgian 7y ago
  Yeah, I could deal with the touch bar if they had a physical button for the ESC key.
human20190310 7y ago
I'd love it if they simply re-issued the 2013 model. I have a 2013 MacBook Pro and it has been great. Every iteration since then has been worse (keyboards, batteries, touchbar, etc). Logic Pro is the only thing that might force me to by an inferior current model Macbook if my 2013 model croaks. I'm about to start experimenting with Ardour to see if my Logic Pro dependency can be removed.

chipotle_coyote 7y ago

What about if they have a touch bar but also have a hardware escape key? That's really the only thing about the touch bar Mac keyboard layout that I hate. (I don't actually mind the feel of the butterfly keys -- I'm typing on them now -- but I don't love them, either. Although if they kept this key feel, maybe just doubled the travel, and brought the reliability back in line with the older scissor switches, I'd be totally on board.)

philwelch 7y ago
Remap caps lock.
- chipotle_coyote 7y ago
  I've gone back to remapping caps lock as a control key recently, so the two hacks conflict. :) (I know there are ways to remap the caps lock key to be both, depending on whether you tap it or hold it down with another key.)
  - philwelch 7y ago
    Remap control to escape!
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
- SiVal 7y ago
  I wish I could remap my MBP arrowkeys to grow up and be full-sized keys...
  - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
    Well, you're at least halfway there with the butterfly keys, since their left and right arrow keys are full-sized and only the up and down keys are half-height! Mac laptops previously have had half-height arrow keys literally for two decades, going back to 1998's PowerBook G3.
torgian 7y ago
Yeah, I could deal with the touch bar if they had a physical button for the ESC key.

human20190310 7y ago

I'd love it if they simply re-issued the 2013 model. I have a 2013 MacBook Pro and it has been great. Every iteration since then has been worse (keyboards, batteries, touchbar, etc). Logic Pro is the only thing that might force me to by an inferior current model Macbook if my 2013 model croaks. I'm about to start experimenting with Ardour to see if my Logic Pro dependency can be removed.