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I agree all the countries who support the HK protestors and their cause, especially UK, should grant asylum to all HK protestors and permanent residents wants t

I agree all the countries who support the HK protestors and their cause, especially UK, should grant asylum to all HK protestors and permanent residents wants to move. Since if UK treated them similar to UK citizens and granted them similar status in 1997, this situation will not arise. Given brexit, if UK allow asylum for HK permanent resident, it might help them ride out the economic fallout. This is really put the hands where the mouth is, instead of words and criticism show support by action. In 1997 Singapore allowed HK permanent resident to get permanent residence in SG, follow the same. Also there was a large exodus of people to Canada, some to USA. But many returned back.

NeedMoreTea 7y ago
Whilst I agree the UK should allow residency, and given history it would be appropriate, the politicians who wanted Brexit have whipped up immigration into such a ridiculous issue that giving entry to any extra group seems inconceivable. There's overt racism in the UK to an extent I can't remember for decades. It started to come back right after the referendum. It feels like the seventies or eighties again in terms of the stupid, and inconsistent attitudes. Some people think it's OK to be visibly racist again.
- ZhuanXia 7y ago
  I used to read Dominic Cumming’s blog. He is a very bright guy, obsessed with the right tail of human capital, which Hong Kong has a disproportionate amount of. He is in a position of huge influence in the new government, which I think some people underrate. A great admirer of Bismarck, I very much doubt he cares much for the policy opinions of the people he pandered to to get power. Morally, the British people owe the people of Hong Kong citizenship. Economically, it makes a great deal of sense, especially as those who move will most likely be younger people. It will be interesting to see what he does. Though no Bizmark, he has a sort of hacker mindset to politics that is unusual in this day and age. From an outsiders perspective, I like free trade and free movement of people, but I hate stultifying bureaucracy. Or to put it another way: I like it when governments compete for citizens and capital. I dislike it when they have the capacity to coordinate against same. So I consider the EU as something of a mixed bag.
  - hsldga 7y ago
    > Morally, the British people owe the people of Hong Kong citizenship. Problem is you can make that same moral argument for all of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.
- microcolonel 7y ago
  > the politicians who wanted Brexit have whipped up immigration into such a ridiculous issue that giving entry to any extra group seems inconceivable Idunno man, I don't think hardly anyone would have a problem with tens or hundreds of thousands of largely civilized, decent, educated people entering Britain; provided it was not in addition to what they're used to from other places. At least, this is what I gather from speaking a lot with Brexiters and marginal remainers.

NeedMoreTea 7y ago

Whilst I agree the UK should allow residency, and given history it would be appropriate, the politicians who wanted Brexit have whipped up immigration into such a ridiculous issue that giving entry to any extra group seems inconceivable. There's overt racism in the UK to an extent I can't remember for decades. It started to come back right after the referendum. It feels like the seventies or eighties again in terms of the stupid, and inconsistent attitudes. Some people think it's OK to be visibly racist again.

ZhuanXia 7y ago
I used to read Dominic Cumming’s blog. He is a very bright guy, obsessed with the right tail of human capital, which Hong Kong has a disproportionate amount of. He is in a position of huge influence in the new government, which I think some people underrate. A great admirer of Bismarck, I very much doubt he cares much for the policy opinions of the people he pandered to to get power. Morally, the British people owe the people of Hong Kong citizenship. Economically, it makes a great deal of sense, especially as those who move will most likely be younger people. It will be interesting to see what he does. Though no Bizmark, he has a sort of hacker mindset to politics that is unusual in this day and age. From an outsiders perspective, I like free trade and free movement of people, but I hate stultifying bureaucracy. Or to put it another way: I like it when governments compete for citizens and capital. I dislike it when they have the capacity to coordinate against same. So I consider the EU as something of a mixed bag.
- hsldga 7y ago
  > Morally, the British people owe the people of Hong Kong citizenship. Problem is you can make that same moral argument for all of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc.
microcolonel 7y ago
> the politicians who wanted Brexit have whipped up immigration into such a ridiculous issue that giving entry to any extra group seems inconceivable Idunno man, I don't think hardly anyone would have a problem with tens or hundreds of thousands of largely civilized, decent, educated people entering Britain; provided it was not in addition to what they're used to from other places. At least, this is what I gather from speaking a lot with Brexiters and marginal remainers.