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Okay but this is the future of our industry. Are they just supposed to roll over or die? Shouldn’t we appreciate that after decades of bad blood they’ve decide

Okay but this is the future of our industry. Are they just supposed to roll over or die? Shouldn’t we appreciate that after decades of bad blood they’ve decided to now wise up? Shouldn’t we give the benefit of the doubt? Companies have to face it. Community-which was once considered auxiliary bullshit that needed lip service—has now become the de-facto requirement for how to engage users and customers in a technology business. Now that we see them doing it we want to criticize them?

msftlvslicnsing 7y ago
Companies are not people. They are not owed any second chances, olive branches, benefits of doubt. Nothing is stopping any of MSFT's OSS-Forward ideas from being brought up by capable people in other contexts. > Community-which was once considered auxiliary bullshit that needed lip service—has now become the de-facto requirement for how to engage users and customers in a technology business. I don't know what you're referring to; I don't see any difference in community engagement in the industry on the whole compared to 10 years ago.
- pferde 7y ago
  The only move towards "community" from big companies I've seen so far is that nowadays you can make a ruckus on twitter to make them care.
rumanator 7y ago
> Shouldn’t we appreciate that after decades of bad blood they’ve decided to now wise up? Shouldn’t we give the benefit of the doubt? If they didn't supported SQL server o Linux then no one would use it, as using MS Windows on VMs forces an additional premium on deployment costs. As I see it, supporting Linux on a specific use case is not a sign of wising up, but a desperate concession to try to stay relevant.
- pionar 7y ago
  > As I see it, supporting Linux on a specific use case is not a sign of wising up, but a desperate concession to try to stay relevant. Those are really the same thing, "wising up" and "trying to stay relevant".

msftlvslicnsing 7y ago

Companies are not people. They are not owed any second chances, olive branches, benefits of doubt. Nothing is stopping any of MSFT's OSS-Forward ideas from being brought up by capable people in other contexts. > Community-which was once considered auxiliary bullshit that needed lip service—has now become the de-facto requirement for how to engage users and customers in a technology business. I don't know what you're referring to; I don't see any difference in community engagement in the industry on the whole compared to 10 years ago.

pferde 7y ago
The only move towards "community" from big companies I've seen so far is that nowadays you can make a ruckus on twitter to make them care.

rumanator 7y ago

> Shouldn’t we appreciate that after decades of bad blood they’ve decided to now wise up? Shouldn’t we give the benefit of the doubt? If they didn't supported SQL server o Linux then no one would use it, as using MS Windows on VMs forces an additional premium on deployment costs. As I see it, supporting Linux on a specific use case is not a sign of wising up, but a desperate concession to try to stay relevant.

pionar 7y ago
> As I see it, supporting Linux on a specific use case is not a sign of wising up, but a desperate concession to try to stay relevant. Those are really the same thing, "wising up" and "trying to stay relevant".