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A man who does that signals that he buys into all the social hype, but is too cheap to really buy in ... and he'll be forcing his wife to either reveal that or

A man who does that signals that he buys into all the social hype, but is too cheap to really buy in ... and he'll be forcing his wife to either reveal that or perpetuate a lie. Why not just be a real man, speak and live the truth. Eschew the lies. Why can't we all just do that as a society? It doesn't matter how much you love each other or your mutual respect? Why do rings even matter? It's the kind of irrational behavior that has destroyed an entire planet!

scarejunba 7y ago
This comment sounds so much like a spambot I decided to see what GPT-2 would generate for "Real men don't buy fake diamonds": > Real men don't buy fake diamonds. They buy real diamond rings. Fake diamonds just aren't worth anything, let alone being used for a marriage contract. So I'll be keeping the diamond wedding. It also produced this beauty: Real men don't buy fake diamonds. Fake men don't pay fake taxes. Fake men don't lie about their motives. Fake men can't read. Fake men can't keep their promises. Fake men know how to hide from the truth. Fake men can't make promises they can't keep. Fake men can't even tell the truth when they think nobody cares, if everybody's watching. Fake men lie just because they can. Fake men are the same as us. They just don't know we're watching.
- reificator 7y ago
  > This comment sounds so much like a spambot Do you think the comment you're replying to is against fake diamonds because they want you to buy real diamonds?
  - scarejunba 7y ago
    The comment expresses the view that the whole diamond thing is bollocks. It's just oddly melodramatic in my opinion and takes these wild swings that spam comments on my WordPress blog take.
- toomanybeersies 7y ago
  Wow, that looks exactly like some kind of "motivational quote" that my relatives might post on Facebook. I wonder if you attributed this to some famous person and seeded it on the internet somewhere, how far it would travel.
  - TheOtherHobbes 7y ago
    One of the first signs that we're moving into a post-AI world will be an AI New Age guru-bot running a self-branded business generating "inspiring" quotes, books, and YT vids with no human intervention.
    - Nasrudith 7y ago
      Ah relative AI advancement - smarter than humans only because some have degraded themselves to be indistinguishable from literal noise.
- artsyca 7y ago
  Can you release this through Creative Commons in some form?
- artsyca 7y ago
  >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxLtdur5fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxLtdur5fc Of interest in relation to GPT-2
privateSFacct 7y ago
Not sure why you are getting downvoted. The guys who get women fake diamonds may result in an uncomfortable partner when someone wows over the diamond. In my case my wife was a scientist - so a man made diamond was perfect. Same thing physically, less likely to have a conflict origin. My advice, if you know your partner well - get something that works for them. For some that's a diamond.
hnick 7y ago
I wouldn't go that far. He may well not buy in to the social hype, but understand that it exists and begrudgingly play the game his own way for appearances only. It'd be the smartest move in many cases. The game is rigged so lying to beat it isn't something I'd condemn, especially if his wife is of the same mind. I definitely agree with your last point, but wasting resources to display fitness is found all across the animal kingdom and sadly it doesn't seem like we've moved past that yet as a species.
toomanybeersies 7y ago
I know plenty of people with "diamondesque" jewellery and I think they look great. There's more reasons to buy jewellery than just social hype.
jacobwilliamroy 7y ago
Or... >buy fake diamonds >lie to everyone, including spouse >fudge the books so spouse can't see suspiciously low-ball jeweler transaction >launder savings through local cash-money businesses >use hypnotic sedatives to repress memories of the lie

scarejunba 7y ago

This comment sounds so much like a spambot I decided to see what GPT-2 would generate for "Real men don't buy fake diamonds": > Real men don't buy fake diamonds. They buy real diamond rings. Fake diamonds just aren't worth anything, let alone being used for a marriage contract. So I'll be keeping the diamond wedding. It also produced this beauty: Real men don't buy fake diamonds. Fake men don't pay fake taxes. Fake men don't lie about their motives. Fake men can't read. Fake men can't keep their promises. Fake men know how to hide from the truth. Fake men can't make promises they can't keep. Fake men can't even tell the truth when they think nobody cares, if everybody's watching. Fake men lie just because they can. Fake men are the same as us. They just don't know we're watching.

reificator 7y ago
> This comment sounds so much like a spambot Do you think the comment you're replying to is against fake diamonds because they want you to buy real diamonds?
- scarejunba 7y ago
  The comment expresses the view that the whole diamond thing is bollocks. It's just oddly melodramatic in my opinion and takes these wild swings that spam comments on my WordPress blog take.
toomanybeersies 7y ago
Wow, that looks exactly like some kind of "motivational quote" that my relatives might post on Facebook. I wonder if you attributed this to some famous person and seeded it on the internet somewhere, how far it would travel.
- TheOtherHobbes 7y ago
  One of the first signs that we're moving into a post-AI world will be an AI New Age guru-bot running a self-branded business generating "inspiring" quotes, books, and YT vids with no human intervention.
  - Nasrudith 7y ago
    Ah relative AI advancement - smarter than humans only because some have degraded themselves to be indistinguishable from literal noise.
artsyca 7y ago
Can you release this through Creative Commons in some form?
artsyca 7y ago
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxLtdur5fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxLtdur5fc Of interest in relation to GPT-2

privateSFacct 7y ago

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. The guys who get women fake diamonds may result in an uncomfortable partner when someone wows over the diamond. In my case my wife was a scientist - so a man made diamond was perfect. Same thing physically, less likely to have a conflict origin. My advice, if you know your partner well - get something that works for them. For some that's a diamond.

hnick 7y ago

I wouldn't go that far. He may well not buy in to the social hype, but understand that it exists and begrudgingly play the game his own way for appearances only. It'd be the smartest move in many cases. The game is rigged so lying to beat it isn't something I'd condemn, especially if his wife is of the same mind. I definitely agree with your last point, but wasting resources to display fitness is found all across the animal kingdom and sadly it doesn't seem like we've moved past that yet as a species.

toomanybeersies 7y ago

I know plenty of people with "diamondesque" jewellery and I think they look great. There's more reasons to buy jewellery than just social hype.

jacobwilliamroy 7y ago

Or... >buy fake diamonds >lie to everyone, including spouse >fudge the books so spouse can't see suspiciously low-ball jeweler transaction >launder savings through local cash-money businesses >use hypnotic sedatives to repress memories of the lie