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They've never had a major crash in almost 35 years. Other budget airlines with few customer perks like southwest have survived crashes with a less stellar safet

They've never had a major crash in almost 35 years. Other budget airlines with few customer perks like southwest have survived crashes with a less stellar safety record.

downandout 7y ago
Other budget airlines with few customer perks like southwest have survived crashes with a less stellar safety record. True, but Southwest does not have a CEO that openly flaunts their being cheap either. They've never had a major crash in almost 35 years. I once won 15 hands of blackjack in a row, but then I lost a hand. Even the most expensive airlines eventually have fatal incidents, and it would be statistically improbable for Ryanair to not eventually have one as well. They may have an amazing safety record and stellar maintenance program, but the nature of flight is such that it is likely to eventually happen (perhaps through no fault of their own) if they are in business long enough. Whether “cheapness” will actually be a factor in that incident or not, people will take his prior statements and run with them. All I was saying is that making such statements in a high-risk industry is not a fantastic idea, as those words may come back to bite him.
- sprafa 7y ago
  You’re making no sense. You’re saying Ryanair has an impeccable safety record, but so does every other airline, but when Ryanair gets a crash, people will assume it’s because it’s cheap? So your entire argument is people are dumb and they will make unwarranted associations. Brilliant
  - downandout 7y ago
    I didn’t say they have an impeccable safety record. I said that even if they did have one at the time of whatever fatal incident they have in the future, they are engaged in a business where they are statistically likely to eventually have a crash. My argument is that it is idiotic for a CEO in such an industry to make comments about being cheap. It leaves the door open for people to place blame when an accident occurs. It’s like talking to the police if they want to interrogate you. It can’t help, but it can hurt. Why would you risk it?
hodgesrm 7y ago
Which Southwest crashes are you thinking about? They have never lost a passenger in a crash, though one person on the ground was killed in Chicago. There have been two accidental passenger deaths. One was due to engine failure, not a crash, and the other was a passenger who tried to get into the cockpit and died after being restrained. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines#Accidents_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines#Accidents_a...
- andyburke 7y ago
  ^^ this. Southwest has one of the best, if not the best, safety records of all major air carriers.
  - Symbiote 7y ago
    The point is that Ryanair is the best. They are smaller than Southwest on most (not all) metrics, but in the same ballpark. Their only accident is a bird strike causing 8 minor injuries.
    - perl4ever 7y ago
      How can you say an airline that is 35 years old is clearly better than one that is 52 years old based on total anything?
- blackflame7000 7y ago
  Admittedly I thought they had more than they do because of all the hoopla about 737s. I guess the one recent incident that comes to mind is the broken fan blade incident that killed a passenger. That could easily be attributed to lack of maintenance but it blew over relatively fast. However, the heroics of the captain created a different story.

They've never had a major crash in almost 35 years. Other budget airlines with few customer perks like southwest have survived crashes with a less stellar safety record.

downandout 7y ago

Other budget airlines with few customer perks like southwest have survived crashes with a less stellar safety record. True, but Southwest does not have a CEO that openly flaunts their being cheap either. They've never had a major crash in almost 35 years. I once won 15 hands of blackjack in a row, but then I lost a hand. Even the most expensive airlines eventually have fatal incidents, and it would be statistically improbable for Ryanair to not eventually have one as well. They may have an amazing safety record and stellar maintenance program, but the nature of flight is such that it is likely to eventually happen (perhaps through no fault of their own) if they are in business long enough. Whether “cheapness” will actually be a factor in that incident or not, people will take his prior statements and run with them. All I was saying is that making such statements in a high-risk industry is not a fantastic idea, as those words may come back to bite him.

sprafa 7y ago
You’re making no sense. You’re saying Ryanair has an impeccable safety record, but so does every other airline, but when Ryanair gets a crash, people will assume it’s because it’s cheap? So your entire argument is people are dumb and they will make unwarranted associations. Brilliant
- downandout 7y ago
  I didn’t say they have an impeccable safety record. I said that even if they did have one at the time of whatever fatal incident they have in the future, they are engaged in a business where they are statistically likely to eventually have a crash. My argument is that it is idiotic for a CEO in such an industry to make comments about being cheap. It leaves the door open for people to place blame when an accident occurs. It’s like talking to the police if they want to interrogate you. It can’t help, but it can hurt. Why would you risk it?

hodgesrm 7y ago

Which Southwest crashes are you thinking about? They have never lost a passenger in a crash, though one person on the ground was killed in Chicago. There have been two accidental passenger deaths. One was due to engine failure, not a crash, and the other was a passenger who tried to get into the cockpit and died after being restrained. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines#Accidents_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines#Accidents_a...

andyburke 7y ago
^^ this. Southwest has one of the best, if not the best, safety records of all major air carriers.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  The point is that Ryanair is the best. They are smaller than Southwest on most (not all) metrics, but in the same ballpark. Their only accident is a bird strike causing 8 minor injuries.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    How can you say an airline that is 35 years old is clearly better than one that is 52 years old based on total anything?
blackflame7000 7y ago
Admittedly I thought they had more than they do because of all the hoopla about 737s. I guess the one recent incident that comes to mind is the broken fan blade incident that killed a passenger. That could easily be attributed to lack of maintenance but it blew over relatively fast. However, the heroics of the captain created a different story.