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Unfortunately, many academics are driven by prestige more so than scientific discovery.
by jazzpush 7y ago
Unfortunately, many academics are driven by prestige more so than scientific discovery.
- AnimalMuppet 7y agoThat is, many academic "scientists" are not actually scientists.
- pg_is_a_butt 7y agoMost humans are "useless"
- rscho 7y agoOnly academics humble and rich enough to live comfortably without depending on their short term output are scientists. In the 10y+ I've already spent in the academic system, my personal experience is that the number of "actual scientists" is very close to zero.
- coybanana 7y agoGive academia capitalistic-geared goals and this is the inevitable outcome.
- pnw_hazor 7y agoCapitalistic? They profit from this kind of behavior because they are shielded from capitalistic-geared reality. They have built an ivory tower that has nothing to do with capitalism.
- rscho 7y agoIt's clearly the other way round. Competition is so fierce that people spin up fraudulent results to keep their job. Today's university work is becoming eerily similar to its corporate counterpart. Which is a huge loss for us all.
- pnw_hazor 7y agoNot all people, just some people, those who are protected and think they can get away with it. Imagine this story the other way around - PhD candidate accused by respectable researcher of making up data...the accuser would have been held out as a hero. This has nothing to do with capitalism. Odd how the whistleblower is finding herself in the same position as if she actually committed the fraud.
- rscho 7y agoLook, I don't know what your personal experience is, but mine is that fabrication, or at least very optimistic interpretation of results is routine in most science shops. Many PIs actually spin up their PhDs results. This is so common nobody even talks about it anymore. Yes, this has everything to do with capitalism. The optimal situation for science is when research institutions are surrounded by riches, i.e capitalism, but science is itself not too much constrained by money. Capitalism does not reward honesty. It rewards ambition and greed. Today's universities faithfully reflect that.
- jsweojtj 7y agoWhat fields are you drawing from in your personal experience?