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Whenever there is a huge power mismatch in a relationship - that is generally not a situation where you can't say someone is not coerced in any way. Especially

Whenever there is a huge power mismatch in a relationship - that is generally not a situation where you can't say someone is not coerced in any way. Especially when the person in question is the president of the United States!

gdy 7y ago
Why not? Women are naturally attracted to men in power, others seek career advantages over coworkers through sex with their superiors.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  That’s why in most companies it’s absolutely verboten for a manager to have any kind of romantic/sexual relationship with subordinates. This should apply to the president too. Having sex with an intern is just shameful and shows serious character issues.
  - gdy 7y ago
    This doesn't make her a victim, just an accomplice.
  - reroute1 7y ago
    Still not necessarily victimizing anyone though
    - roland35 7y ago
      Easy enough to say if your boss is not hitting on you! If you turn him down it could hurt your career... These are the types of things most men don't have to worry about.
      - gingabriska 7y ago
        >These are the types of things most men don't have to worry about. My co-worker went got me fired because I didn't accept her advances. It's a long story but she accused me of hitting on her, when in reality she was hitting on me and I was just ignoring her. A bunch of other guys supported her (idk why, I didn't know those guys much but they supported her even tho she is a pathological lier.)
        gdy 7y ago
        #BelieveHer
      - gdy 7y ago
        You seem to be under illusion that women are morally better than men. That's sexist and, worse, wrong.
  - dennisgorelik 7y ago
    Men are sexually attracted to women. Following your line of reasoning women should NOT use that sexual attraction to their advantage and should not have sexual relationships with men.
eloff 7y ago
It's also generally not a situation where you can say someone was coerced in any way without knowing more details. They are two adults engaging in consensual activity. I seriously doubt she thought there would be negative consequences if she said no. More likely she thought she might stand to gain something if she went along with it, but that's hardly coercion. I don't know, I have somewhat different thinking about sex in professional settings. I tend to see women as more capable of using their own judgement in those situations and less needing of protection. That's not always the case though, like with Harvey Weinstein. Edit: comment if you disagree, downvotes won't change my opinion.
- gdy 7y ago
  The goal is to collapse your comment and prevent other people from seeing it, not to change your opinion.
  - eloff 7y ago
    Censorship of dissenting opinions should hopefully be abhorrent to most people here on HN. It goes against the hacker ideals.
    - gdy 7y ago
      <sarcasm> Oh, come on, they are just making hn a better and safer place. </sarcasm>
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gdy 7y ago

Why not? Women are naturally attracted to men in power, others seek career advantages over coworkers through sex with their superiors.

Ididntdothis 7y ago
That’s why in most companies it’s absolutely verboten for a manager to have any kind of romantic/sexual relationship with subordinates. This should apply to the president too. Having sex with an intern is just shameful and shows serious character issues.
- gdy 7y ago
  This doesn't make her a victim, just an accomplice.
- reroute1 7y ago
  Still not necessarily victimizing anyone though
  - roland35 7y ago
    Easy enough to say if your boss is not hitting on you! If you turn him down it could hurt your career... These are the types of things most men don't have to worry about.
    - gingabriska 7y ago
      >These are the types of things most men don't have to worry about. My co-worker went got me fired because I didn't accept her advances. It's a long story but she accused me of hitting on her, when in reality she was hitting on me and I was just ignoring her. A bunch of other guys supported her (idk why, I didn't know those guys much but they supported her even tho she is a pathological lier.)
      - gdy 7y ago
        #BelieveHer
    - gdy 7y ago
      You seem to be under illusion that women are morally better than men. That's sexist and, worse, wrong.
- dennisgorelik 7y ago
  Men are sexually attracted to women. Following your line of reasoning women should NOT use that sexual attraction to their advantage and should not have sexual relationships with men.

eloff 7y ago

It's also generally not a situation where you can say someone was coerced in any way without knowing more details. They are two adults engaging in consensual activity. I seriously doubt she thought there would be negative consequences if she said no. More likely she thought she might stand to gain something if she went along with it, but that's hardly coercion. I don't know, I have somewhat different thinking about sex in professional settings. I tend to see women as more capable of using their own judgement in those situations and less needing of protection. That's not always the case though, like with Harvey Weinstein. Edit: comment if you disagree, downvotes won't change my opinion.

gdy 7y ago
The goal is to collapse your comment and prevent other people from seeing it, not to change your opinion.
- eloff 7y ago
  Censorship of dissenting opinions should hopefully be abhorrent to most people here on HN. It goes against the hacker ideals.
  - gdy 7y ago
    <sarcasm> Oh, come on, they are just making hn a better and safer place. </sarcasm>
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