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Firefox is sitting at 8.3% quota in NA and dwindling. It's reasonable not to support it.

by zsrxx 7y ago

debaserab2 7y ago
I can’t imagine making the case to anyone at my work that we can/should voluntarily stop supporting 8.3% of our audience.
- Spivak 7y ago
  - 8.3% average globally doesn't necessarily represent 8.3% of your users or market. - 8.3% is almost much larger than the metric you actually care about -- the percentage of users that will not use Chrome (or your desired set of supported browsers).
  - debaserab2 7y ago
    Of course, I used that figure because it’s what the poster used. I looked up what it is for the product I work on and it’s actually only 4% — still an order of magnitude larger than it would need to be to consider not supporting it. The desired set of supported browsers will always come down to metrics.
- mtarnovan 7y ago
  heck, we're supporting IE11 at great pains with ~4% audience
mcv 7y ago
That number should grow again. It's becoming increasingly obvious what a privacy leak Chrome is, and Firefox is just as good, making it an obvious choice for anyone who cares about privacy.
- zsrxx 7y ago
  Chrome attacking the privacy and the choice of its users has been happening for years now. And Firefox keeps dying.
  - ghusbands 7y ago
    Mozilla (Firefox) management thought that installing a Mr Robot advert extension on people's computers, without asking, was a good move, and defended it until the internet outcry got loud enough. With management like that, I find it hard to trust them. Default-installing Pocket was also not entirely defensible and was probably money-driven. Essentially, both companies have done anti-privacy and untrustworthy actions, and choosing the lesser evil is hardly ideal.
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      The difference between Mozilla and Google is substantial. Whenever Mozilla gets this wrong it is usually a goof of sorts, when Google gets it wrong it tends to be policy. See 'AMP'.
vetinari 7y ago
Let's keep the numbers in perspective. The 8,3% (or 9,52%, or whatever) of Firefox users is way, way beyond total Skype users. Firefox has about ~170M users, Skype 4,5M.

Firefox is sitting at 8.3% quota in NA and dwindling. It's reasonable not to support it.

by zsrxx 7y ago

Firefox is sitting at 8.3% quota in NA and dwindling. It's reasonable not to support it.

I can’t imagine making the case to anyone at my work that we can/should voluntarily stop supporting 8.3% of our audience.

Spivak 7y ago
- 8.3% average globally doesn't necessarily represent 8.3% of your users or market. - 8.3% is almost much larger than the metric you actually care about -- the percentage of users that will not use Chrome (or your desired set of supported browsers).
- debaserab2 7y ago
  Of course, I used that figure because it’s what the poster used. I looked up what it is for the product I work on and it’s actually only 4% — still an order of magnitude larger than it would need to be to consider not supporting it. The desired set of supported browsers will always come down to metrics.
mtarnovan 7y ago
heck, we're supporting IE11 at great pains with ~4% audience

mcv 7y ago

That number should grow again. It's becoming increasingly obvious what a privacy leak Chrome is, and Firefox is just as good, making it an obvious choice for anyone who cares about privacy.

zsrxx 7y ago
Chrome attacking the privacy and the choice of its users has been happening for years now. And Firefox keeps dying.
- ghusbands 7y ago
  Mozilla (Firefox) management thought that installing a Mr Robot advert extension on people's computers, without asking, was a good move, and defended it until the internet outcry got loud enough. With management like that, I find it hard to trust them. Default-installing Pocket was also not entirely defensible and was probably money-driven. Essentially, both companies have done anti-privacy and untrustworthy actions, and choosing the lesser evil is hardly ideal.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    The difference between Mozilla and Google is substantial. Whenever Mozilla gets this wrong it is usually a goof of sorts, when Google gets it wrong it tends to be policy. See 'AMP'.

vetinari 7y ago

Let's keep the numbers in perspective. The 8,3% (or 9,52%, or whatever) of Firefox users is way, way beyond total Skype users. Firefox has about ~170M users, Skype 4,5M.