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We don't need human-curated Youtube, we need to give more control to users. The annoying thing about Youtube is that many of the problems I have with their alg
by danShumway 7y ago
We don't need human-curated Youtube, we need to give more control to users.
The annoying thing about Youtube is that many of the problems I have with their algorithm could very, very easily be solved if the designers gave up their relentless mantra of "never ask the user anything directly."
I watch playlists and LetsPlays, and occasionally my homepage will just turn into a massive wall of recommendations from the same playlist, rather than one recommendation for the next video in the list. That's hard to solve algorithmically, but very easy if you give me a button to press that says, "when recommending a playlist, only recommend one video."
It's very hard to algorithmically figure out whether or not a user wants repeated recommendations because repeated recommendations tend to steer users towards repeated views even if they would prefer other behavior. But Youtube has view history for users. It would be very easy to have a button to press that says, "don't recommend videos I've already watched."
But at some point, everyone working on AI/algorithms decided that the best user experience would be for users to try and on-the-fly intuit the quirks of every algorithm and then to do reinforcement training based on their partial understanding of how things work. The last thing I want as a user is to have to treat my computer like a cat.
- ses1984 7y agoPlaylists can be semantically different things. They can be "top 50 songs of 2018" or they can be "history of WW2 parts 1-50". It might make sense to recommend more than one video fron the first kind of playlist, but not the second.
- crtasm 7y agoPerhaps allow the creator to tag playlists as a collection or a series, or get consensus from user votes.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y agoHow does that invalidate the argument for giving control over this functionality to the user?
- ses1984 7y agoIt doesn't. Being able to deal with different kinds of playlist would be good either way, whether YouTube controlled everything for you or some customization was possible by end users.
- danShumway 7y agoYou're absolutely correct, and that distinction is why the problem is so hard to solve algorithmically. The addition of the angle, "never ask the user to categorize something, always intuit it", is what makes this a hard problem. Youtube doesn't know which types of playlists I use, but I do. They're wasting computing time and my time to try and guess the behavior I want, when I could just tell them what behavior I want.