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That was really sad. I'm a Christian, but fully recognize there is some sickening hypocrisy in the 'Christian' world (and probably all religious and non-religi

That was really sad. I'm a Christian, but fully recognize there is some sickening hypocrisy in the 'Christian' world (and probably all religious and non-religious groups), but it's especially sick when these attitudes are propagated by supposed love. Truly, 'they worship me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me'. This makes me question anything that supports rape fantasies. Anything that would even remotely encourage someone to act out this horrible, life ruining crime on another human being is very bad for society. It's one form of censorship I would support.

tumult 16y ago
Not brave enough to stand up for censorship with your own account? I voted you down. I don't think your comment has any meaningful place in this thread. It should go without saying that you shouldn't use someone's death to soapbox about censorship or any other unrelated topic.
- anon_for_this_1 16y ago
  Like my other account is any less anonymous? (didn't realize I was signed in with this account). Journalistic convention is more related to the topic?? We've just found out about someone that suffered through a hell-filled life because of some sicko's fantasy. I'd hope we would try and figure out a way to spare others the same aweful fate.
  - anon_for_this_1 16y ago
    Damn. Getting all teary-eyed reading the posts in the other thread. Life on this little rock can be so hard sometimes... RIP Bill.
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    > because of some sicko's fantasy. No, he suffered through a hell-filled life because of some sicko's _actions_.
    - anon_for_this_1 16y ago
      OK, agreed. And did that guy just get up one day and decide to do this out of the blue? No way -- he fantasized about it first. Thoughts lead to actions -- it's always worked that way. Granted, not ALL thoughts lead to ALL actions, but no action ever happened before the thought. Encouraging or feeding a _destructive_ fantasy doesn't have any positive outcomes (neutral at best).
      - steveklabnik 16y ago
        > no action ever happened before the thought. What about 'crimes of passion'?
      - uriel 16y ago
        Oh, this is such a great argument for thought crimes! Because most crimes occur after somebody thinks of them, we should ban any thought (and by implication this includes any depiction) of any crime! I'm sure that will work out great. But it is hardly surprising that a religious person came up with this, given that most sins are already thought crimes.
    - uriel 16y ago
      Well, in fairness, religious people seem to have difficulty telling apart fantasies from reality... After all, that is what faith is, a strong belief that your fantasies are real.
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tumult 16y ago

Not brave enough to stand up for censorship with your own account? I voted you down. I don't think your comment has any meaningful place in this thread. It should go without saying that you shouldn't use someone's death to soapbox about censorship or any other unrelated topic.

anon_for_this_1 16y ago
Like my other account is any less anonymous? (didn't realize I was signed in with this account). Journalistic convention is more related to the topic?? We've just found out about someone that suffered through a hell-filled life because of some sicko's fantasy. I'd hope we would try and figure out a way to spare others the same aweful fate.
- anon_for_this_1 16y ago
  Damn. Getting all teary-eyed reading the posts in the other thread. Life on this little rock can be so hard sometimes... RIP Bill.
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  > because of some sicko's fantasy. No, he suffered through a hell-filled life because of some sicko's _actions_.
  - anon_for_this_1 16y ago
    OK, agreed. And did that guy just get up one day and decide to do this out of the blue? No way -- he fantasized about it first. Thoughts lead to actions -- it's always worked that way. Granted, not ALL thoughts lead to ALL actions, but no action ever happened before the thought. Encouraging or feeding a _destructive_ fantasy doesn't have any positive outcomes (neutral at best).
    - steveklabnik 16y ago
      > no action ever happened before the thought. What about 'crimes of passion'?
    - uriel 16y ago
      Oh, this is such a great argument for thought crimes! Because most crimes occur after somebody thinks of them, we should ban any thought (and by implication this includes any depiction) of any crime! I'm sure that will work out great. But it is hardly surprising that a religious person came up with this, given that most sins are already thought crimes.
  - uriel 16y ago
    Well, in fairness, religious people seem to have difficulty telling apart fantasies from reality... After all, that is what faith is, a strong belief that your fantasies are real.
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