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There's a detailed screenshot but I can't zoom to see the detail because the website designer has gone the extra mile to make it non-zoomable. Why do people do

There's a detailed screenshot but I can't zoom to see the detail because the website designer has gone the extra mile to make it non-zoomable. Why do people do this?

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
Zooming works fine here. Mobile Safari iPhone SE.
- enedil 7y ago
  That's because Safari disregards this option, as it is hostile towards users.
  - nvrspyx 7y ago
    The site does mess up inertial scrolling on iOS Safari though.
    - senorprogrammer 7y ago
      Thanks for this comment. I think you might have just solved issue #33 in the wtfdocs repo.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
      Internal scrolling works fine here.
      - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
        Inertial
      - nvrspyx 7y ago
        I think it was fixed. It’s working just fine now, but it was borked when I posted the comment.
joemaffei 7y ago
On mobile, tapping the picture opens it in isolation, allowing you to zoom in on it.
- tazard 7y ago
  It opens a smaller version in isolation that I still can't zoom
  - tazard 7y ago
    For others having the same issue, the image can be found in the github repo: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wtfutil/wtf/master/images/screenshot.jpg https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wtfutil/wtf/master/images/...
- Yizahi 7y ago
  You can't zoom it either
UI_at_80x24 7y ago
Same, Firefox on linux can't zoom the image. Right-click 'View Image' does provide a standard zoomable image, but why make me work to see if your product is of use/benefit to me?
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  I am on Linux on Firefox and I can zoom... Ctrl + scrollwheel. Or am I missing something?
  - graedus 7y ago
    I've always understood user-scalable="no" to apply only to mobile/touch devices and their pinch-to-zoom functionality. I can't remember an instance where Ctrl + scrollwheel and Ctrl + -/+/0 didn't work on desktop browsers.
    - giancarlostoro 7y ago
      I even disable that on Firefox Mobile cause I hate not being able to just Zoom. Don't assume it looks perfect for me without my consent.
johnisgood 7y ago
I do not know but I encountered this more often than not. Direct links to images are a rare occurrence in my experience. I usually just right click on the image, then click on "Open Image in New Tab" which will get me what I want. Off-topic but: was it not Google that tried to work around this so one could not do even this in the search results?
- n8henry 7y ago
  Google removed that functionality because of a settlement with Getty.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    That is awful and fundamentally flawed. If it's on my device, I can save it. Edit: Come to think of it, if it's on my device, it's already saved in some way, shape and form. Clearly nobody technical at that company made that decision to sue Google. What Google should of done is offered to advertise that an image is available to purchase...
    - dspillett 7y ago
      > awful and fundamentally flawed Unfortunately the law often does not make objective sense. And even when it seems to from your perspective, the way others interpret it does not. > nobody technical at that company made that decision to sue Technical people can be arseholes too you know. Many patent trolls are technical people, not just legal eagles, for instance.
      - MichaelApproved 7y ago
        > Unfortunately the law often does not make objective sense. This isn't about the law. It's unclear if the law would require something like this or not. Google decided not to find out by settling. The settlement terms were up to the two companies to decide and were not mandated by laws.
- eythian 7y ago
tdewitt 7y ago
Came here to say this. Potentially interested but I've lost all interest because I can't zoom the page to actually look at the screenshot. I consider this bad behavior and I don't reward bad behavior.
andai 7y ago
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, maximum-scale=1, user-scalable=no">
- iaml 7y ago
  I have no clue why people downvote you, as this is exactly the reason this page is not zoomable. In my humble opinion people doing stuff like this should be forcefully separated from the process of creating web sites.
  - debaserab2 7y ago
    There’s reasons for doing it, though. For example, iOS Safari likes to zoom past 1.0 slightly when focusing an input and doesn’t zoom back out to 1.0 when unfocused. This often leaves users in a slightly zoomed in state which means they can easily miss right side aligned buttons and content. Setting the maximum scale to 1 in the viewport prevents this.
- austinjp 7y ago
  It's my understanding that this HTML is (mis)used to reduce tap-delay on mobile devices: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6397748/whats-the-point-of-meta-viewport-user-scalable-no-in-the-google-maps-api/16910559 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6397748/whats-the-point-... That's doesn't excuse it, of course. I think it's boilerplate that ends up pasted into a lot of websites.
igravious 7y ago
What do you mean that you can't zoom? Do you mean you can't zoom the image or do you mean you can't zoom the site? And on what combination of device, os, and browser can you not zoom the image/site? On Firefox on Linux on my laptop I can ctrl+scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the site, or right-click on the image and select `view image` from the context-sensitive menu which opens the image in another tab and from there the cursor becomes a magnifying glass.
dspillett 7y ago
I think it is a misguided attempt at making the content dynamically adjust to the device proportions, so the screenshot is large but not overlarge (over screen size) on mobile and desktop devices of different orientations. A laudable goal, if badly implemented (I can't scale at all on mobile, it distorts oddly when I zoom on desktop). Either that or deliberate user filtering: if you can't figure out right-click (or long press) then "open in new tab" on your own, then maybe you are not the class of user the creator wants to support :-). I doubt the inconvenience is deliberate, more a side effect of some other design consideration. There are smaller images on each of the widget description pages (though they also scale oddly in places) which in total provide more detail than that one image. Perhaps drop the author a polite message suggesting that they include a "view full image" link near the screenshot on the opening page or with the image itself as the mouse target?
nine_k 7y ago
Zooms just fine in mobile Firefox. It's a good thing when the makers of a browser actually care about the user.
senorprogrammer 7y ago
Part of the site's default template. Bug #47 in the wtfdocs repo has been opened for this.
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Yizahi 7y ago
I can zoom in desktop Firefox and can't in mobile Firefox. In addition on mobile screenshot is heavily distorted vertically.
- the_pwner224 7y ago
  In Firefox for Android you can force enable zoom in Settings => Accessibility. Still doesn't fix the stretching of the image...
reaperducer 7y ago
There's a detailed screenshot but I can't zoom to see the detail because the website designer has gone the extra mile to make it non-zoomable. Why do people do this? And why do they disable native scrolling? Apple spent hundreds of man hours to get scrolling just right in iOS, why override the OS? You can't even scroll the page if it has a code block on it.
- senorprogrammer 7y ago
  I agree. There's an open issue for this in the `wtfdocs` repo. If you have any thoughts on what's causing it, please drop a message in there.
- FreeHugs 7y ago
  On most desktop browsers you should be able to right-click the image and display it in a new tab which then lets you zoom any way you want. On Android there is a setting to always enable zoom.
  - reaperducer 7y ago
    That doesn't help me with scrolling the page in any way.
senorprogrammer 7y ago
I've deleted the 'max-scale' and 'user-scalable' values from the meta tag. Let me know if that helps at all.
- deleted 7y ago
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- floatingatoll 7y ago
  The site still can’t be scrolled past the opening image easily on Safari iOS, but the initial image can now be zoomed - thank you!
bla3 7y ago
Looks like it's now fixed.
pininja 7y ago
I was able to click on the screenshot to open it up in a modal, and that was zoomable.
lscotte 7y ago
I can zoom in on it just fine with Android Firefox.
- buckminster 7y ago
  They fixed the site.
godelski 7y ago
On Firefox (desktop and Android) I can zoom no problem. On desktop I have to view image first though others just the background zooms, on mobile it works exactly as expected.

There's a detailed screenshot but I can't zoom to see the detail because the website designer has gone the extra mile to make it non-zoomable. Why do people do this?

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago

Zooming works fine here. Mobile Safari iPhone SE.

enedil 7y ago
That's because Safari disregards this option, as it is hostile towards users.
- nvrspyx 7y ago
  The site does mess up inertial scrolling on iOS Safari though.
  - senorprogrammer 7y ago
    Thanks for this comment. I think you might have just solved issue #33 in the wtfdocs repo.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
    Internal scrolling works fine here.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
      Inertial
    - nvrspyx 7y ago
      I think it was fixed. It’s working just fine now, but it was borked when I posted the comment.

joemaffei 7y ago

On mobile, tapping the picture opens it in isolation, allowing you to zoom in on it.

tazard 7y ago
It opens a smaller version in isolation that I still can't zoom
- tazard 7y ago
  For others having the same issue, the image can be found in the github repo: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wtfutil/wtf/master/images/screenshot.jpg https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wtfutil/wtf/master/images/...
Yizahi 7y ago
You can't zoom it either

UI_at_80x24 7y ago

Same, Firefox on linux can't zoom the image. Right-click 'View Image' does provide a standard zoomable image, but why make me work to see if your product is of use/benefit to me?

giancarlostoro 7y ago
I am on Linux on Firefox and I can zoom... Ctrl + scrollwheel. Or am I missing something?
- graedus 7y ago
  I've always understood user-scalable="no" to apply only to mobile/touch devices and their pinch-to-zoom functionality. I can't remember an instance where Ctrl + scrollwheel and Ctrl + -/+/0 didn't work on desktop browsers.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    I even disable that on Firefox Mobile cause I hate not being able to just Zoom. Don't assume it looks perfect for me without my consent.

johnisgood 7y ago

I do not know but I encountered this more often than not. Direct links to images are a rare occurrence in my experience. I usually just right click on the image, then click on "Open Image in New Tab" which will get me what I want. Off-topic but: was it not Google that tried to work around this so one could not do even this in the search results?

n8henry 7y ago
Google removed that functionality because of a settlement with Getty.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  That is awful and fundamentally flawed. If it's on my device, I can save it. Edit: Come to think of it, if it's on my device, it's already saved in some way, shape and form. Clearly nobody technical at that company made that decision to sue Google. What Google should of done is offered to advertise that an image is available to purchase...
  - dspillett 7y ago
    > awful and fundamentally flawed Unfortunately the law often does not make objective sense. And even when it seems to from your perspective, the way others interpret it does not. > nobody technical at that company made that decision to sue Technical people can be arseholes too you know. Many patent trolls are technical people, not just legal eagles, for instance.
    - MichaelApproved 7y ago
      > Unfortunately the law often does not make objective sense. This isn't about the law. It's unclear if the law would require something like this or not. Google decided not to find out by settling. The settlement terms were up to the two companies to decide and were not mandated by laws.
eythian 7y ago

tdewitt 7y ago

Came here to say this. Potentially interested but I've lost all interest because I can't zoom the page to actually look at the screenshot. I consider this bad behavior and I don't reward bad behavior.

andai 7y ago

iaml 7y ago
I have no clue why people downvote you, as this is exactly the reason this page is not zoomable. In my humble opinion people doing stuff like this should be forcefully separated from the process of creating web sites.
- debaserab2 7y ago
  There’s reasons for doing it, though. For example, iOS Safari likes to zoom past 1.0 slightly when focusing an input and doesn’t zoom back out to 1.0 when unfocused. This often leaves users in a slightly zoomed in state which means they can easily miss right side aligned buttons and content. Setting the maximum scale to 1 in the viewport prevents this.
austinjp 7y ago
It's my understanding that this HTML is (mis)used to reduce tap-delay on mobile devices: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6397748/whats-the-point-of-meta-viewport-user-scalable-no-in-the-google-maps-api/16910559 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6397748/whats-the-point-... That's doesn't excuse it, of course. I think it's boilerplate that ends up pasted into a lot of websites.

igravious 7y ago

What do you mean that you can't zoom? Do you mean you can't zoom the image or do you mean you can't zoom the site? And on what combination of device, os, and browser can you not zoom the image/site? On Firefox on Linux on my laptop I can ctrl+scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the site, or right-click on the image and select `view image` from the context-sensitive menu which opens the image in another tab and from there the cursor becomes a magnifying glass.

dspillett 7y ago

I think it is a misguided attempt at making the content dynamically adjust to the device proportions, so the screenshot is large but not overlarge (over screen size) on mobile and desktop devices of different orientations. A laudable goal, if badly implemented (I can't scale at all on mobile, it distorts oddly when I zoom on desktop). Either that or deliberate user filtering: if you can't figure out right-click (or long press) then "open in new tab" on your own, then maybe you are not the class of user the creator wants to support :-). I doubt the inconvenience is deliberate, more a side effect of some other design consideration. There are smaller images on each of the widget description pages (though they also scale oddly in places) which in total provide more detail than that one image. Perhaps drop the author a polite message suggesting that they include a "view full image" link near the screenshot on the opening page or with the image itself as the mouse target?

nine_k 7y ago

Zooms just fine in mobile Firefox. It's a good thing when the makers of a browser actually care about the user.

senorprogrammer 7y ago

Part of the site's default template. Bug #47 in the wtfdocs repo has been opened for this.

deleted 7y ago

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Yizahi 7y ago

I can zoom in desktop Firefox and can't in mobile Firefox. In addition on mobile screenshot is heavily distorted vertically.

the_pwner224 7y ago
In Firefox for Android you can force enable zoom in Settings => Accessibility. Still doesn't fix the stretching of the image...

reaperducer 7y ago

There's a detailed screenshot but I can't zoom to see the detail because the website designer has gone the extra mile to make it non-zoomable. Why do people do this? And why do they disable native scrolling? Apple spent hundreds of man hours to get scrolling just right in iOS, why override the OS? You can't even scroll the page if it has a code block on it.

senorprogrammer 7y ago
I agree. There's an open issue for this in the `wtfdocs` repo. If you have any thoughts on what's causing it, please drop a message in there.
FreeHugs 7y ago
On most desktop browsers you should be able to right-click the image and display it in a new tab which then lets you zoom any way you want. On Android there is a setting to always enable zoom.
- reaperducer 7y ago
  That doesn't help me with scrolling the page in any way.

senorprogrammer 7y ago

I've deleted the 'max-scale' and 'user-scalable' values from the meta tag. Let me know if that helps at all.

deleted 7y ago
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floatingatoll 7y ago
The site still can’t be scrolled past the opening image easily on Safari iOS, but the initial image can now be zoomed - thank you!

bla3 7y ago

Looks like it's now fixed.

pininja 7y ago

I was able to click on the screenshot to open it up in a modal, and that was zoomable.

lscotte 7y ago

I can zoom in on it just fine with Android Firefox.

buckminster 7y ago
They fixed the site.

godelski 7y ago

On Firefox (desktop and Android) I can zoom no problem. On desktop I have to view image first though others just the background zooms, on mobile it works exactly as expected.