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I think it's mainly a difference in configuration. The developer version, IIRC, allows you to install extensions on your own machine without seeking approval fr

by ptx 7y ago

I think it's mainly a difference in configuration. The developer version, IIRC, allows you to install extensions on your own machine without seeking approval from Mozilla, but on the other hand it apparently subjects you to additional telemetry: > Firefox Developer Edition automatically sends feedback to Mozilla ... In addition to the data collection described in this Privacy Notice, these versions by default may send certain types of web activity and crash data to Mozilla and in some cases to our partners.

gigatexal 7y ago
When was the last time devs took time out of their day to create detailed bug reports with crash logs and context? Telemetry done right is just a way to surface bugs properly.
- mcny 7y ago
  I use nightly as my main browser because I want Mozilla to see my bugs. And I want Mozilla to not do telemetry in production. No such luck.
bovine3dom 7y ago
If you just want to be able to install unsigned extensions with neither the extra bugs from running a beta nor the telemetry, you can use the far less advertised "unbranded builds" of Firefox [1] instead. [1]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/Extension_Signing#Latest_Builds https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/Extension_Signing#Latest_Bu...
- yjftsjthsd-h 7y ago
  Don't the unbranded builds also lack automatic updating?
  - bovine3dom 7y ago
    It's possible. Last I heard was that the unbranded builds were too eager to update [1] so it could well have been disabled totally. The Mozilla wiki doesn't mention anything about updating being disabled which to me implies it is not. If you find out for certain, please let me know! I don't personally use the builds as Mozilla has not yet blocked signing of our extensions and `web-ext run` serves me well for development. Automated signing is not brilliantly documented but works well enough [2-3] to ensure that our builds are tested by real users before we release a stable version. [1]: https://www.ghacks.net/?p=123637 https://www.ghacks.net/?p=123637 [2]: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/blob/f45c990eac074df815e9cd8c27bf7a56b0527bbd/scripts/sign#L5 https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/blob/f45c990eac074df8... [3]: https://github.com/tridactyl/buildbot/blob/master/autobuild.sh https://github.com/tridactyl/buildbot/blob/master/autobuild....
dschep 7y ago
> allows you to install extensions on your own machine without seeking approval from Mozilla Unless it changed quite recently, you can do this with normal Firefox builds too AFAIK
- gergles 7y ago
  It changed, but not really that recently. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Distribution_options/Sideloading_add-ons https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web... Note specifically the step where the addon must be signed before it can be installed in this fashion. "Developer edition" does not require you have Mozilla's permission to install addons.

by ptx 7y ago

gigatexal 7y ago

When was the last time devs took time out of their day to create detailed bug reports with crash logs and context? Telemetry done right is just a way to surface bugs properly.

mcny 7y ago
I use nightly as my main browser because I want Mozilla to see my bugs. And I want Mozilla to not do telemetry in production. No such luck.

bovine3dom 7y ago

If you just want to be able to install unsigned extensions with neither the extra bugs from running a beta nor the telemetry, you can use the far less advertised "unbranded builds" of Firefox [1] instead. [1]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/Extension_Signing#Latest_Builds https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/Extension_Signing#Latest_Bu...

yjftsjthsd-h 7y ago
Don't the unbranded builds also lack automatic updating?
- bovine3dom 7y ago
  It's possible. Last I heard was that the unbranded builds were too eager to update [1] so it could well have been disabled totally. The Mozilla wiki doesn't mention anything about updating being disabled which to me implies it is not. If you find out for certain, please let me know! I don't personally use the builds as Mozilla has not yet blocked signing of our extensions and `web-ext run` serves me well for development. Automated signing is not brilliantly documented but works well enough [2-3] to ensure that our builds are tested by real users before we release a stable version. [1]: https://www.ghacks.net/?p=123637 https://www.ghacks.net/?p=123637 [2]: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/blob/f45c990eac074df815e9cd8c27bf7a56b0527bbd/scripts/sign#L5 https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/blob/f45c990eac074df8... [3]: https://github.com/tridactyl/buildbot/blob/master/autobuild.sh https://github.com/tridactyl/buildbot/blob/master/autobuild....

dschep 7y ago

> allows you to install extensions on your own machine without seeking approval from Mozilla Unless it changed quite recently, you can do this with normal Firefox builds too AFAIK

gergles 7y ago
It changed, but not really that recently. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Distribution_options/Sideloading_add-ons https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web... Note specifically the step where the addon must be signed before it can be installed in this fashion. "Developer edition" does not require you have Mozilla's permission to install addons.