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Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20076814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20076814 The idea of a federated package registry is go
by ergl 7y ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20076814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20076814
The idea of a federated package registry is good: it tries to avoid centralization and control of a language ecosystem by a private company (like it happened with NPM).
However, I think it can easily be gamed, the same way Git was gamed by GitHub. I do wonder what prevents any of the big companies, for example, Microsoft through Github, to host an instance of Entropic, and adding too-good-to-be-true features on top. These could be automatic vulnerability alerts, detailed metrics, integration with code completion services, but only if you use their instance, and could serve to convince anyone to host mainly on Github’s instance. Then they roll their own CLI that supports Github-only features, and then they close API access to third party clients. The Apache 2 license would allow all of this, without problems.
This has happened before with XMPP (Google Talk, Facebook Chat), IRC (Slack, Discord) and SMTP (Gmail). I think we’ll need more than federated protocols to solve the problem of VC-backed companies, but at least this is a start.
- zelly 7y agoIMO the git/github scenario was the least harmful because git is actually decentralized. If github goes down or turns bad, the exodus to a new platform would happen faster than it happened on sourceforge. The SaaS should be walking on eggshells by design—that can only happen with real decentralization at the protocol layer, like git but unlike smtp or xmpp. That way we are just freeloading off whatever cloud company wants to take us before we jump ship.
- jblwps 7y agoWhat about guaranteed software freedom for the server via the AGPL (or any similar license that exists)? Granted, that would cover the actual server-side components and not the actual protocol itself. Depending on how the Oracle V. Google case goes (i.e. if Google successfully appeals to the Supreme court, or if the Appellate Court's ruling stands), maybe we could get something like "The AGPL for protocols"?