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> The US used to stand for fairness, equality, and due process. We've allowed the worst of ourselves (fear of the other) to destroy the best of ourselves (openn
by ianleeclark 7y ago
> The US used to stand for fairness, equality, and due process. We've allowed the worst of ourselves (fear of the other) to destroy the best of ourselves (openness, fairness, justice).
Where do you get this ahistorical mythical belief? When we were deporting millions of Hispanic people (citizens included) in the 30s, how just was that? Was it fair to upend their lives and send them to a foreign land?
When we let the Klan sweep over the Reconstruction south, was that just? Jim-Crow southern laws and their constituent sumptuary codes sure don't seem very open to me.
Fear of the other is deeply ingrained into the US. See the Japanese internment camps, see white flight post segregation, see the modern xenophobia aimed towards Russians.
- sampo 7y agoPeople from much worse regimes have always been escaping to the US, to get some of that openness, fairness, justice, even if it's not perfect, it's usually better than where they left from.
- ianleeclark 7y ago> even if it's not perfect This is such a tragic underselling of the horrors that I described.
- sampo 7y agoWhat would have been your favorite country in the 30s to the 50s?
- ianleeclark 7y agoJust claim you misspoke or something. How are you actually doubling down that the US and it's willing citizenry was only just missing the mark of perfection through it's abuse and exploitation of its own citizens? What a complete joke
- sampo 7y agoNot trying to defend the US. Just noting that in those decades, other countries were usually even worse.
- somecontext 7y ago> deporting millions of Hispanic people (citizens included) in the 30s In case anyone is curious, this appears to be referring to the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation