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Well what truth do you want? China wants to extradite Hong Kong citizens to China to stand trial. Hong Kong citizens want autonomy. This is a classic David vs G

Well what truth do you want? China wants to extradite Hong Kong citizens to China to stand trial. Hong Kong citizens want autonomy. This is a classic David vs Goliath battle.

kccqzy 7y ago
The protests did start because of the extradition bill, but the bill has been dead for more than a month[0], yet the protests have not stopped. Can you see that the protestors are protesting about something else now? If the bill were the protesters' goal, they had already succeeded. The situation is so much more complicated than just an ill-conceived bill. It doesn't help things when media (or other people) try to simplify things and frame it as something as clear cut as David vs Goliath. [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-48918096/carrie-lam-hong-kong-extradition-bill-is-dead https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-48918096/carrie...
- keiferski 7y ago
  There seems to be a distinction between "withdrawn" and "dead." Although the bill has not been formally withdrawn, on 9 July, Hong Kong's chief executive Carrie Lam said she has stopped the amendment process and reiterated there is 'no plan' to restart this process in the Legislative Council, stating: "the bill is dead". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Hong_Kong_extradition_bill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Hong_Kong_extradition_bil...
  - kccqzy 7y ago
    The U.S. Senate has killed many bills from the House not by voting on them and the bills failed to pass, but by not bringing them up for a vote. It's just procedural.
    - keiferski 7y ago
      The U.S. senate isn’t run in the background by a totalitarian state.
- tremon 7y ago
  No, the bill is not dead. It's in stasis, but can be revived any moment. Your own link even says so explicitly: She stopped short of saying it had been withdrawn completely Because of both the bill and the initial response to the protests, the protesters are now asking for the government (governor?) to step down. I can't say I disagree.

Well what truth do you want? China wants to extradite Hong Kong citizens to China to stand trial. Hong Kong citizens want autonomy. This is a classic David vs Goliath battle.

kccqzy 7y ago

The protests did start because of the extradition bill, but the bill has been dead for more than a month[0], yet the protests have not stopped. Can you see that the protestors are protesting about something else now? If the bill were the protesters' goal, they had already succeeded. The situation is so much more complicated than just an ill-conceived bill. It doesn't help things when media (or other people) try to simplify things and frame it as something as clear cut as David vs Goliath. [0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-48918096/carrie-lam-hong-kong-extradition-bill-is-dead https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-48918096/carrie...

keiferski 7y ago
There seems to be a distinction between "withdrawn" and "dead." Although the bill has not been formally withdrawn, on 9 July, Hong Kong's chief executive Carrie Lam said she has stopped the amendment process and reiterated there is 'no plan' to restart this process in the Legislative Council, stating: "the bill is dead". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Hong_Kong_extradition_bill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Hong_Kong_extradition_bil...
- kccqzy 7y ago
  The U.S. Senate has killed many bills from the House not by voting on them and the bills failed to pass, but by not bringing them up for a vote. It's just procedural.
  - keiferski 7y ago
    The U.S. senate isn’t run in the background by a totalitarian state.
tremon 7y ago
No, the bill is not dead. It's in stasis, but can be revived any moment. Your own link even says so explicitly: She stopped short of saying it had been withdrawn completely Because of both the bill and the initial response to the protests, the protesters are now asking for the government (governor?) to step down. I can't say I disagree.