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I feel like there's this continuum: Linux: Free, Doesn't spy on you MacOS: Costs money, Doesn't spy on you ChromeOS: Free, Spies on you Windows: Costs money

I feel like there's this continuum: Linux: Free, Doesn't spy on you MacOS: Costs money, Doesn't spy on you ChromeOS: Free, Spies on you Windows: Costs money, Spies on you

user5994461 7y ago
You must be kidding on Linux not spying on you. The ubuntu start menu is sending everything you type to the internet and filling the menus with ads.
- throwaway-9320 7y ago
  [citation needed]
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  - jodrellblank 7y ago
    Circa 2012, and disabled-by-default since Ubuntu 16, but still a system wide toggle instead of a per-use option: > Ubuntu, a widely used and influential GNU/Linux distribution, has installed surveillance code. When the user searches her own local files for a string using the Ubuntu desktop, Ubuntu sends that string to one of Canonical's servers. (Canonical is the company that develops Ubuntu.) > [..] Ubuntu uses the information about searches to show the user ads to buy various things from Amazon. https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
m463 7y ago
Some points: - macos phones home a lot (and this has increased release by release) - so does ubuntu (snap)
jodrellblank 7y ago
Ubuntu, to livepatch the kernel between reboots, you need to sign in (== some kind of user tracking for free patching). After three machines you need to pay: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/canonical-kernel-live-patch-in-ubuntu-18.04-1-750x563.png https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/canon... They advertise this paid service in the MOTD: https://linuxconfig.org/images/02-change-welcome-message-ubuntu-18.04-server.png https://linuxconfig.org/images/02-change-welcome-message-ubu... That's not fundamentally any different to Microsoft advertising Office 365 in Windows, is it?

I feel like there's this continuum: Linux: Free, Doesn't spy on you MacOS: Costs money, Doesn't spy on you ChromeOS: Free, Spies on you Windows: Costs money, Spies on you

user5994461 7y ago

You must be kidding on Linux not spying on you. The ubuntu start menu is sending everything you type to the internet and filling the menus with ads.

throwaway-9320 7y ago
[citation needed]
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- jodrellblank 7y ago
  Circa 2012, and disabled-by-default since Ubuntu 16, but still a system wide toggle instead of a per-use option: > Ubuntu, a widely used and influential GNU/Linux distribution, has installed surveillance code. When the user searches her own local files for a string using the Ubuntu desktop, Ubuntu sends that string to one of Canonical's servers. (Canonical is the company that develops Ubuntu.) > [..] Ubuntu uses the information about searches to show the user ads to buy various things from Amazon. https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html

m463 7y ago

Some points: - macos phones home a lot (and this has increased release by release) - so does ubuntu (snap)

jodrellblank 7y ago

Ubuntu, to livepatch the kernel between reboots, you need to sign in (== some kind of user tracking for free patching). After three machines you need to pay: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/canonical-kernel-live-patch-in-ubuntu-18.04-1-750x563.png https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/canon... They advertise this paid service in the MOTD: https://linuxconfig.org/images/02-change-welcome-message-ubuntu-18.04-server.png https://linuxconfig.org/images/02-change-welcome-message-ubu... That's not fundamentally any different to Microsoft advertising Office 365 in Windows, is it?