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> Asian males, are the only racial group in America subject to overt policies meant to disadvantage them on the basis of their race I'd recommend reading The C

> Asian males, are the only racial group in America subject to overt policies meant to disadvantage them on the basis of their race I'd recommend reading The Color of Law, https://www.epi.org/publication/the-color-of-law-a-forgotten-history-of-how-our-government-segregated-america/ https://www.epi.org/publication/the-color-of-law-a-forgotten...

ralusek 7y ago
Redlining has been illegal for 50 years. I'm aware of historical policies.
- jonnybgood 7y ago
  And those people who were affected by it are still alive and still living in its shadow. The damage has already been done and it's going to take more than one generation before its affects start to fade.
  - ralusek 7y ago
    Where did I make the claim that people's circumstances today would be unaffected by history?
- cheriot 7y ago
  That's not the only subject of the book
- cheriot 7y ago
  here's a more recent example than redlining https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/sausalito-school-segregation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/sausalito-school-segre...
  - waterhouse 7y ago
    > A California school district outside of San Francisco agreed to desegregate its schools on Friday, after a two-year state investigation found that the district had “knowingly and intentionally maintained and exacerbated” racial segregation and even established an intentionally segregated school. > In the Sausalito case, the state said the district had violated the equal protection clause of the California Constitution. > The settlement, filed in state court in San Francisco... Sounds like it was (a) not overt (if it took a two-year investigation to establish it), (b) illegal, and (c) eventually punished under preexisting law.
    - T3OU-736 7y ago
      > and (c) eventually punished under preexisting law. While I agree with you on this point, punishment does not mean repair or restore, which is the sad part. Prevention, through detection (which goes to your point of "(a) not overt (if it took a two-year investigation to establish it)" seems like the better thing for these sorts of circumstances, but is a lot more difficult to achieve. Part of me, possibly naively, believes that transparency is the answer, so that those of us who care can determine things without a 2 year investigation, but that feels... too simplistic. Not sure what a better answer is, though.
    - cheriot 7y ago
      If blatant is not overt in this context then I'm curious what the overt discrimination against asian males is?

ralusek 7y ago

Redlining has been illegal for 50 years. I'm aware of historical policies.

jonnybgood 7y ago
And those people who were affected by it are still alive and still living in its shadow. The damage has already been done and it's going to take more than one generation before its affects start to fade.
- ralusek 7y ago
  Where did I make the claim that people's circumstances today would be unaffected by history?
cheriot 7y ago
That's not the only subject of the book
cheriot 7y ago
here's a more recent example than redlining https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/sausalito-school-segregation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/us/sausalito-school-segre...
- waterhouse 7y ago
  > A California school district outside of San Francisco agreed to desegregate its schools on Friday, after a two-year state investigation found that the district had “knowingly and intentionally maintained and exacerbated” racial segregation and even established an intentionally segregated school. > In the Sausalito case, the state said the district had violated the equal protection clause of the California Constitution. > The settlement, filed in state court in San Francisco... Sounds like it was (a) not overt (if it took a two-year investigation to establish it), (b) illegal, and (c) eventually punished under preexisting law.
  - T3OU-736 7y ago
    > and (c) eventually punished under preexisting law. While I agree with you on this point, punishment does not mean repair or restore, which is the sad part. Prevention, through detection (which goes to your point of "(a) not overt (if it took a two-year investigation to establish it)" seems like the better thing for these sorts of circumstances, but is a lot more difficult to achieve. Part of me, possibly naively, believes that transparency is the answer, so that those of us who care can determine things without a 2 year investigation, but that feels... too simplistic. Not sure what a better answer is, though.
  - cheriot 7y ago
    If blatant is not overt in this context then I'm curious what the overt discrimination against asian males is?