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I'll take the bet, though it ultimately proves nothing. Just because you learn whatever proper technique is needed (if any) for vertical jump and can kind of e

I'll take the bet, though it ultimately proves nothing. Just because you learn whatever proper technique is needed (if any) for vertical jump and can kind of emulate it the same day does not mean you've realized long term gains. It only means you've memorized some technical points. Will you actually internalize those techniques? If you were randomly tested later would you still have those gains? Not only that, it also has nothing to do with my point -- The vertical leap parts of the book aren't him telling people to learn proper technique; They are based around strength gains. And I stand by my point that he didn't "bulk up" in the morning and then jump higher that afternoon, as the book would imply.

lsc 16y ago
>Just because you learn whatever proper technique is needed (if any) for vertical jump and can kind of emulate it the same day does not mean you've realized long term gains. It only means you've memorized some technical points. If you are trying to jump higher and not become more generally fit, I disagree. Memorizing some technical points /can/ bring long term gains to various physical activities. Learning to squat properly, for example, massively decreases the chance of injury long-term. >The vertical leap parts of the book aren't him telling people to learn proper technique; They are based around strength gains. And I stand by my point that he didn't "bulk up" in the morning and then jump higher that afternoon, as the book would imply. this, I agree with completely. My only point was that even short periods of time spent learning the proper form can greatly improve performance and results. Those technical points, quite often, mean significantly better performance and a significant decrease in injury. You are of course right that you aren't going to work out one day and end up significantly stronger the same day. I don't know anything about training for the vertical leap; perhaps form is completely intuitive, and training brings no same-day gains. But, for example, cross country skiing? a few hours of lessons can massively boost performance of someone who is completely untrained, not because it makes you stronger, but because there is a skill to moving efficiently on Skis.

lsc 16y ago

>Just because you learn whatever proper technique is needed (if any) for vertical jump and can kind of emulate it the same day does not mean you've realized long term gains. It only means you've memorized some technical points. If you are trying to jump higher and not become more generally fit, I disagree. Memorizing some technical points /can/ bring long term gains to various physical activities. Learning to squat properly, for example, massively decreases the chance of injury long-term. >The vertical leap parts of the book aren't him telling people to learn proper technique; They are based around strength gains. And I stand by my point that he didn't "bulk up" in the morning and then jump higher that afternoon, as the book would imply. this, I agree with completely. My only point was that even short periods of time spent learning the proper form can greatly improve performance and results. Those technical points, quite often, mean significantly better performance and a significant decrease in injury. You are of course right that you aren't going to work out one day and end up significantly stronger the same day. I don't know anything about training for the vertical leap; perhaps form is completely intuitive, and training brings no same-day gains. But, for example, cross country skiing? a few hours of lessons can massively boost performance of someone who is completely untrained, not because it makes you stronger, but because there is a skill to moving efficiently on Skis.