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Really? Like specifically marketing and providing mass surveillance solutions to governments? That's a pretty major thing that Palantir does that other data ana
by okmokmz 7y ago
Really? Like specifically marketing and providing mass surveillance solutions to governments? That's a pretty major thing that Palantir does that other data analysis tools do not. Sure, if you want to keep being pedantic and trying to play off what Palantir does you can say they're "just" a consulting company, or "just" a data analytics company, but it's incredibly apparent that they primarily assist governments and organizations with mass surveillance, and trying to argue otherwise is disingenuous. You can try to pass the buck, but it isn't fooling anyone
- ng12 7y agoWhat is a "mass surveillance solution"?
- okmokmz 7y agoSolution: a means of solving a problem or dealing with a difficult situation Mass surveillance: the distributive close observation of an entire population, or a substantial fraction of the entire population i.e. a means of observation of a population or subset of a population which is exactly what Palantir does, as has been demonstrated by their leaked documents. Sure, you could probably accomplish something similar with the help of other big data analytics companies, but unlike those companies, Palantir's primary business is aiding in mass surveillance https://southfront.org/palantirs-user-guide-mass-surveillance-made-simple/ https://southfront.org/palantirs-user-guide-mass-surveillanc...
- ng12 7y agoTake a good look at the screenshots in that link. It's a completely generic database -- you fill in some search fields and some data is returned, you can do a join, and then you can plop that data into a chart. Palantir isn't out there collecting data on citizens or scanning license plates or anything else I would consider "mass surveillance".
- okmokmz 7y agoIf you want to continue to be disingenuous and try to play off Palantir as a run of the mill big data company that is fine, but their business model is implementing and assissting with mass surveillance and I don't know a single individual in the field that is aware of Palantir that considers them "just a consulting company" or interchangeable with tableau or something similar as you seem to be arguing
- ng12 7y agoAgain I'll ask -- what do you think Palantir is doing that makes them so different?
- okmokmz 7y agoAs I've already stated, how they market themselves, who they market themselves to, the governments/organizations/companies they've worked with, the company's history, statements from the company's founder, etc. In fact, I've found hardly any sources on Palantir that don't mention their work on mass surveillance. Your comments come off a lot like the comments of Facebook engineers when I discuss Facebook's mass surveillance. Regardless of what you think, the majority opinion seems to be that Palantir is largely a mass surveillance big data company (because they are).
- ng12 7y agoWow, I would have never guessed that Coca-Cola, Kimberly-Clark, Hershey, Home Depot, and Walmart were all in on the mass surveillance business [1]. Anyways -- agree to disagree. My personal take is that once the mass surveillance has been conducted the cat's out of the bag. Once the LAPD started scannning license plates it doesn't really matter if they're using Palantir to search the data or a bunch of interns sifting through it by hand. The only thing we can do is get the LAPD and the LA City Government to be accountable to their citizens. 1. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/williamalden/inside-palantir-silicon-valleys-most-secretive-company https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/williamalden/inside-pal...