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This is so tiresome. I posted this to reddit: I installed my first Linux in 1994, before there was a Linux 1.0. I use Linux to this day on my router and my se
by chx 7y ago
This is so tiresome.
I posted this to reddit:
I installed my first Linux in 1994, before there was a Linux 1.0. I use Linux to this day on my router and my server.
I have been using Linux as my daily driver 2004-2017.
You can't say I haven't tried.
I maintain anyone advocating to use Linux on a notebook has Stockholm syndrome or more amicably, uses a very narrow set of hardware and services ("plain" wifi, no bluetooth, no printers, no scanners, no Thunderbolt). Windows has a Linux subsystem, use it, it's great.
Your choices include using Ubuntu or a similar system where the six month OS upgrade will break your system so badly you won't be able to work for days. Or you can use Arch where at least the main body of your system will stay alive (most of the time but not always) during rolling upgrades but "insignificant" pieces like MFC devices or bluetooth will break all the time. Mind https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/
And if you ever need to work with enterprises, their wifi, their VPN... the company will have an IT helpdesk ready to help with any glitches if you are running Windows or Mac but if you are running Linux? Sucks to be you. And it does suck.
I now have an external GPU via Thunderbolt. I plug in, my monitor plugged into lights up, all my running programs move there. It's a nonevent. So is undocking. How would that work on Linux?? The hot-plugging-an-nVidia-GPU might be supported on paper but I am very happy not to need to configure that and even more not to need to keep that configuration working. And I don't think moving apps from one GPU to the next GPU would just work without an X restart.
Nope. The driver support is so far superior in Windows it's not even funny. Sure the command line sucks but oh well, just use WSL. Use O&O Shutup to kill the controversial reporting back features. Enjoy.
And then I got some answers and I looked up other Thunderbolt uses under Linux and the results... oh my. A quick check shows the Aquantia 10 GbE chipset driver [broke](https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/58174 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/58174) from 4.15 to 4.16 fixed in 4.17 and then from 4.20 to 5.0 again and there is a patch but the [bug report](https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202651 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202651) is still open (every affordable, single port 10 GbE TB3 adapter utilize this chipset).
- throw0101a 7y ago> Your choices include using Ubuntu or a similar system where the six month OS upgrade will break your system so badly you won't be able to work for days. Or Ubuntu LTS, where you only have to worry about things every five years (or two if you want to update). This is what is used by my local helpdesk, and things generally haven't been a problem from what I can tell.
- wbkang 7y agoLTS has its drawbacks. For years I had to work with Ubuntu 16.04 I had to compile my own vim and tmux to have features I want. I have no problem doing that as a developer but it's not a very good replacement experience for end users.
- throw0101a 7y agoThere's a new LTS every two years, so I don't think things get too out of date. Also, are you doing it by hand? Have you looked at either pkgsrc or spark.io? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pkgsrc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pkgsrc * https://spack.io https://spack.io