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I'm really into home Cloud stuff. This answers none of my questions. 1) Where will my files be stored? 2) Does Duple store a copy? 3) What does Duple do with

I'm really into home Cloud stuff. This answers none of my questions. 1) Where will my files be stored? 2) Does Duple store a copy? 3) What does Duple do with my meta data? What do they do with usage stats? 4) Does Duple have any third party contracts or contractors with access to my data? 5) How does putting Duple software on an RPI make my files available from anywhere? How do you enable access to my device from anywhere? These guys are asking for an awful lot of faith from users who are looking to potentially store their entire lives on their service. We deserve to know how it really works.

mvanbaak 7y ago
A lot of those questions are answered in their FAQ. The Duple application on your 'server' will simply expose a directory on that system (or a remote SFTP server) to other Duple applications you connect to it. All data will be on the machine you maintain. So no, they are not storing your data for you. To enable access to your device from outside your local network, you have to either give the Duple running machine a public ip and open the port, or do port-forwarding if you are behind a NAT firewall (which is the most common situation for home cloud stuff)
- indigodaddy 7y ago
  So this concept is similar to BitTorrent Sync? (Or whatever it’s called now)
  - mvanbaak 7y ago
    Yups, and syncthing as well. and probably others.
human20190310 7y ago
What is the purpose of having "the cloud" in your home at all? To me "the cloud's" primary value is that it is running off-site, in an environment that capably and regularly deals with broken equipment. If my work is backed up in Google/Dropbox's data center, I don't have to worry about it if my house gets flooded. Having the cloud in your house, running on whatever stuff is laying around, just seems one small step removed from just keeping everything on your laptop and hoping it doesn't break.
- zelon88 7y ago
  You're not wrong about the benefits of the Cloud. Some people make bomb shelters in their basement, some people stockpile canned goods. I stockpile data. I even have an old text only offline copy of the English Wikipedia. My main issues are privacy. I don't want Google peeking into everything I upload for marketing materials. I also don't want to trust a third party company with my kids photos. They can change their privacy policy in the blink of an eye, or disable my account by accident without reason or warning. Then there's the security aspect, and I'm settling in for a fight here. Google, AWS, Azure... These are all consolidated attack vectors. When WWIII breaks out it's not starting in the physical world. It's starting on the internet, and the first casualties are going to be major infrastructure providers followed immediately by FB, Google, Microsoft, and AWS. Take out those 4 companies and our world is in chaos. Your company won't get their emails, their apps will be offline, and half our economy will be out of business by morning time. But not me. My RAID arrays are still spinning away and if I want to I can reach out and touch them. Who knows where everyone elses data is. That's not my problem.
  - human20190310 7y ago
    It's a pretty narrow window of global chaos where this approach is advantageous. You're optimizing for a situation where cloud infrastructure is demolished, but the power grid and/or fuel supply chain required to keep your specific RAID arrays spinning is operational.
    - zelon88 7y ago
      One is dependent on the other, no? If I don't have electricity I don't have ANY storage. Mine or Google's. But I can still have mine without Google. It doesn't work the other way around. And Google's got a much larger target on their back than I do.
  - KingFelix 7y ago
    Great dialogue here, you should turn it into a video with some epic music in the background, and fading images in and out, rock flag and eagle. And host the video on a rasberry pi, at your home, on Peertube I have been enjoying learning about self hosting, Matrix.org has been the next project I am interested in, once I get bored with other current hobby projects. Hosting my own node, that and I am waiting for the Google photos clone to get up version 1.0 so I can self host all my images too.

mvanbaak 7y ago

A lot of those questions are answered in their FAQ. The Duple application on your 'server' will simply expose a directory on that system (or a remote SFTP server) to other Duple applications you connect to it. All data will be on the machine you maintain. So no, they are not storing your data for you. To enable access to your device from outside your local network, you have to either give the Duple running machine a public ip and open the port, or do port-forwarding if you are behind a NAT firewall (which is the most common situation for home cloud stuff)

indigodaddy 7y ago
So this concept is similar to BitTorrent Sync? (Or whatever it’s called now)
- mvanbaak 7y ago
  Yups, and syncthing as well. and probably others.

human20190310 7y ago

What is the purpose of having "the cloud" in your home at all? To me "the cloud's" primary value is that it is running off-site, in an environment that capably and regularly deals with broken equipment. If my work is backed up in Google/Dropbox's data center, I don't have to worry about it if my house gets flooded. Having the cloud in your house, running on whatever stuff is laying around, just seems one small step removed from just keeping everything on your laptop and hoping it doesn't break.

zelon88 7y ago
You're not wrong about the benefits of the Cloud. Some people make bomb shelters in their basement, some people stockpile canned goods. I stockpile data. I even have an old text only offline copy of the English Wikipedia. My main issues are privacy. I don't want Google peeking into everything I upload for marketing materials. I also don't want to trust a third party company with my kids photos. They can change their privacy policy in the blink of an eye, or disable my account by accident without reason or warning. Then there's the security aspect, and I'm settling in for a fight here. Google, AWS, Azure... These are all consolidated attack vectors. When WWIII breaks out it's not starting in the physical world. It's starting on the internet, and the first casualties are going to be major infrastructure providers followed immediately by FB, Google, Microsoft, and AWS. Take out those 4 companies and our world is in chaos. Your company won't get their emails, their apps will be offline, and half our economy will be out of business by morning time. But not me. My RAID arrays are still spinning away and if I want to I can reach out and touch them. Who knows where everyone elses data is. That's not my problem.
- human20190310 7y ago
  It's a pretty narrow window of global chaos where this approach is advantageous. You're optimizing for a situation where cloud infrastructure is demolished, but the power grid and/or fuel supply chain required to keep your specific RAID arrays spinning is operational.
  - zelon88 7y ago
    One is dependent on the other, no? If I don't have electricity I don't have ANY storage. Mine or Google's. But I can still have mine without Google. It doesn't work the other way around. And Google's got a much larger target on their back than I do.
- KingFelix 7y ago
  Great dialogue here, you should turn it into a video with some epic music in the background, and fading images in and out, rock flag and eagle. And host the video on a rasberry pi, at your home, on Peertube I have been enjoying learning about self hosting, Matrix.org has been the next project I am interested in, once I get bored with other current hobby projects. Hosting my own node, that and I am waiting for the Google photos clone to get up version 1.0 so I can self host all my images too.