> This is the absolutism that derails the discussion for me. Sorry. Many of us have assumptions which are hard to change. > In one step, you have forsworn any

> This is the absolutism that derails the discussion for me. Sorry. Many of us have assumptions which are hard to change. > In one step, you have forsworn any service which doesn't own it's entire stack from CDN to network switches to racks on the data center. No quite so. There are modern tools which make owning the entire stack not absolutely necessary - end to end encryption and proxies, including Tor-like, come to mind. We're in the state of flux regarding privacy, both with losses and some gains, so it's not binary. If HN uses it, it's a reason to improve things - not to dismiss as unattainable the privacy feature which seems so essential for many purposes.