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Everyone is separated from their kids when they're arrested. This is a fake scandal. As for poor living conditions, it isn't really a systemic or intentional

Everyone is separated from their kids when they're arrested. This is a fake scandal. As for poor living conditions, it isn't really a systemic or intentional thing. Conditions vary by facility. Some are remarkably fine, some are strained beyond their capacity. That's not really their fault. Let's apply some agency to the people coming across the border, rather than just ICE. Personally, I wouldn't think to illegally sneak into a country, refuse to leave, then complain about not getting dental care and a comfy bed fast enough. Spare me. How about we just not let them in? https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/the-head-of-ice-called-family-detention-summer-camp-heres-what-it-looks-like-inside/2019/08/25/8f32609e-c679-11e9-b5e4-54aa56d5b7ce_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/the-head-of-ice-c...

devoply 7y ago
> Everyone is separated from their kids when they're arrested. This is a fake scandal. Fake outcry. If a parent is sent to jail, the children are given to protective services not sent into internment camps without basic necessities. How about all the Europeans go back to their countries and the natives round up their kids in internment camps.
- alfromspace 7y ago
  We can complain about conditions in child protective services, too. No system is perfect. I suspect this is a tactical criticism, and the conditions aren't the real objection, but rather the fact that we're not just releasing everyone to freely live in the interior. Are you implying unwanted mass immigration was bad for the native Americans? Is it good for the Europeans now?
  - devoply 7y ago
    You want to deport illegals, no objections from me. But in this case the ends don't justify the means. Do it correctly without causing unnecessary suffering and you won't hear a peep out of me.
    - fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
      Care to outline exactly how that would be done? Or what alternative you see?

devoply 7y ago

> Everyone is separated from their kids when they're arrested. This is a fake scandal. Fake outcry. If a parent is sent to jail, the children are given to protective services not sent into internment camps without basic necessities. How about all the Europeans go back to their countries and the natives round up their kids in internment camps.

alfromspace 7y ago
We can complain about conditions in child protective services, too. No system is perfect. I suspect this is a tactical criticism, and the conditions aren't the real objection, but rather the fact that we're not just releasing everyone to freely live in the interior. Are you implying unwanted mass immigration was bad for the native Americans? Is it good for the Europeans now?
- devoply 7y ago
  You want to deport illegals, no objections from me. But in this case the ends don't justify the means. Do it correctly without causing unnecessary suffering and you won't hear a peep out of me.
  - fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
    Care to outline exactly how that would be done? Or what alternative you see?