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Japan, the golden child of public transportation, serves suburban areas as well as urban cores. I am not convinced it's altogether an issue of population densit

Japan, the golden child of public transportation, serves suburban areas as well as urban cores. I am not convinced it's altogether an issue of population density. It seems more a cultural issue. In America, public transportation is seen as being for people who can't afford a car. In Japan, it's just part of how you get places.

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
Well, affording a car in Japan is also very expensive. The cars not so much; the inspections, taxes and parking very much expensive. So maybe Japan is just the place where almost nobody can afford a car? Thus, the same as the US.
lmm 7y ago
Fix our attitude to car parking and the rest will follow. In Japan there's no street parking, thus narrow streets and no need for sidewalks, saving even more space for actual stuff. If you want to own a car, it's your responsibility to pay for space to keep it in (and you're not even allowed to buy one without showing that you've got a space), you don't get to just dump it in some public space.
- briandear 7y ago
  Most Americans have driveways and many have garages. It’s a pretty small minority that park their cars on the street. And most city street parking is certainly not free.
  - lmm 7y ago
    > Most Americans have driveways and many have garages. It’s a pretty small minority that park their cars on the street. Less so in cities I think? In any case, the streets are still built to parked-cars-on-both-sides width. > And most city street parking is certainly not free. Even when there is a charge, it's priced far below what the land is worth.
- mymythisisthis 7y ago
  I don't think people realize how much cars have ruined everything! The USA wasn't bombed during WWII, but look at pictures of American cities in the 1940 vs. the 1970s; tens of thousands of small towns wiped off the map.
mantas 7y ago
Tokyo suburbia is quite dense. Gmaps should have pretty good coverage.
pr0duktiv 7y ago
Great point! In Zurich, using public transport is just the way to go for everyone. High-profile banking executives as well as blue-collar workers. Works like a charm

JoeAltmaier 7y ago

Well, affording a car in Japan is also very expensive. The cars not so much; the inspections, taxes and parking very much expensive. So maybe Japan is just the place where almost nobody can afford a car? Thus, the same as the US.

lmm 7y ago

Fix our attitude to car parking and the rest will follow. In Japan there's no street parking, thus narrow streets and no need for sidewalks, saving even more space for actual stuff. If you want to own a car, it's your responsibility to pay for space to keep it in (and you're not even allowed to buy one without showing that you've got a space), you don't get to just dump it in some public space.

briandear 7y ago
Most Americans have driveways and many have garages. It’s a pretty small minority that park their cars on the street. And most city street parking is certainly not free.
- lmm 7y ago
  > Most Americans have driveways and many have garages. It’s a pretty small minority that park their cars on the street. Less so in cities I think? In any case, the streets are still built to parked-cars-on-both-sides width. > And most city street parking is certainly not free. Even when there is a charge, it's priced far below what the land is worth.
mymythisisthis 7y ago
I don't think people realize how much cars have ruined everything! The USA wasn't bombed during WWII, but look at pictures of American cities in the 1940 vs. the 1970s; tens of thousands of small towns wiped off the map.

mantas 7y ago

Tokyo suburbia is quite dense. Gmaps should have pretty good coverage.

pr0duktiv 7y ago

Great point! In Zurich, using public transport is just the way to go for everyone. High-profile banking executives as well as blue-collar workers. Works like a charm