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It's essentially the music business but for programmers. Non-essential consumer product, everyone wants to do it, discovery is terrible, and the companies that

It's essentially the music business but for programmers. Non-essential consumer product, everyone wants to do it, discovery is terrible, and the companies that are lucky enough to get big aren't incentived to treat their employees well because there's so much competition to get into the field.

wouternl 7y ago
Geez thats a deadly summary. I’ll label this the red pill.
- TremendousJudge 7y ago
  you _can_ make amateur music for fun though. you'll never play in a big theater probably, but you'll enjoy yourself and you'll have something to eat
  - wouternl 7y ago
    Music is so winner take all that I hesitate recommending it even to the most talented of musicians. Compare the quality of this song with its play volume: https://youtu.be/903dYSv-xhw https://youtu.be/903dYSv-xhw
taneq 7y ago
"Music business but for programmers" is a good way to put it. It's basically the software equivalent of trying to be a pro surfer or a rock star.
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C1sc0cat 7y ago
Its similar in Charity work but with more bullying and even less pay. I am not joking, I did a high end hr/ir course a while back and all the participants where surprised it wasn't the City Investment Banking type of jobs that had the worst rep for bullying etc.
- mumblemumble 7y ago
  I'm not surprised at all. Between friends who work in finance and friends who work in the nonprofit sector, I can tell you that one group never got forced to cancel their birthday or holiday plans at the last minute to cover for some giant screw-up on the boss's part while said boss spends the same evening at home with the kids, and the other had things like that happen almost regularly. Which isn't to say that finance jobs aren't stressful and grueling, but they at least seem to be a bit more inclined stop short of being personally cruel to their staff. "You should be happy to work here, we're doing God's work" is a powerful force that's easy to abuse. And, in finance, everyone knows that nobody else is there for the deep personal sense of fulfillment, either.

wouternl 7y ago

Geez thats a deadly summary. I’ll label this the red pill.

TremendousJudge 7y ago
you _can_ make amateur music for fun though. you'll never play in a big theater probably, but you'll enjoy yourself and you'll have something to eat
- wouternl 7y ago
  Music is so winner take all that I hesitate recommending it even to the most talented of musicians. Compare the quality of this song with its play volume: https://youtu.be/903dYSv-xhw https://youtu.be/903dYSv-xhw

taneq 7y ago

"Music business but for programmers" is a good way to put it. It's basically the software equivalent of trying to be a pro surfer or a rock star.

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C1sc0cat 7y ago

Its similar in Charity work but with more bullying and even less pay. I am not joking, I did a high end hr/ir course a while back and all the participants where surprised it wasn't the City Investment Banking type of jobs that had the worst rep for bullying etc.

mumblemumble 7y ago
I'm not surprised at all. Between friends who work in finance and friends who work in the nonprofit sector, I can tell you that one group never got forced to cancel their birthday or holiday plans at the last minute to cover for some giant screw-up on the boss's part while said boss spends the same evening at home with the kids, and the other had things like that happen almost regularly. Which isn't to say that finance jobs aren't stressful and grueling, but they at least seem to be a bit more inclined stop short of being personally cruel to their staff. "You should be happy to work here, we're doing God's work" is a powerful force that's easy to abuse. And, in finance, everyone knows that nobody else is there for the deep personal sense of fulfillment, either.