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A lot of this information came out last week on Xeni's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/xeni https://twitter.com/xeni She's been doing an amazing job diggi

A lot of this information came out last week on Xeni's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/xeni https://twitter.com/xeni She's been doing an amazing job digging into Epstein's relationships with the science and tech community (some of it first hand). For example: https://twitter.com/xeni/status/1165266579560521728 https://twitter.com/xeni/status/1165266579560521728

ebg13 7y ago
The digging is skilled, but the assumptions that go with them don't appear to be supported? > "John Brockman knew. Here he is with one of Jeffrey Epstein’s rape victims on one side, and alleged abuse coordinator" Being photographed with someone isn't the same as knowing that they're being raped. Is there more to that?
- msghacq 7y ago
  He was already covered extensively in the media for raping under age girls. Brockman brought him to that party and then proceeded to take pictures with a bunch of young women that Epstein brought along.
  - ebg13 7y ago
    > He was already covered extensively in the media for raping under age girls When? The caption on the photo says "early 2000s". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein says that the accusation leading to his first criminal case didn't happen until 2005. His conviction didn't happen until 2008. So how does that fit into the "early 2000s" timeline?
- larrywright 7y ago
  You wouldn’t find it odd that someone who had no children of his own was constantly surrounded by teenage girls? I sure would. Yes, that’s not the same as knowing that they’re being raped, but I’d sure want to distance myself from someone who was behaving like that.
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  - ebg13 7y ago
    Being odd is not a crime. What any one person would do is often not a strong indicator of what is right. A lot of people also like to distance themselves from black people. Them being black is not the same as knowing that they're violent criminals, but... The kind of thought process that you're suggesting has very toxic tendrils.
    - larrywright 7y ago
      Let me put it this way: a middle-aged man, with no children of his own, regularly hanging out with underaged girls is more than odd - it’s a warning sign. There really aren’t many (if any) non-sleazy explanations for that behavior. He didn’t even have a credible cover story, like working with disadvantaged young women. Comparing this to avoiding black people based solely on the color of their skin (and not that there are warning signs) is not remotely the same.
      - ebg13 7y ago
        > it’s a warning sign Or it's not, because your preconceptions aren't universal? Is there a factual basis for this other than "I don't like it"? > Comparing this to avoiding black people based solely on the color of their skin (and not that there are warning signs) is not remotely the same. It looks exactly the same to me. Many people think that black skin is a warning sign. The difference is in what you believe, not in what is happening.

ebg13 7y ago

The digging is skilled, but the assumptions that go with them don't appear to be supported? > "John Brockman knew. Here he is with one of Jeffrey Epstein’s rape victims on one side, and alleged abuse coordinator" Being photographed with someone isn't the same as knowing that they're being raped. Is there more to that?

msghacq 7y ago
He was already covered extensively in the media for raping under age girls. Brockman brought him to that party and then proceeded to take pictures with a bunch of young women that Epstein brought along.
- ebg13 7y ago
  > He was already covered extensively in the media for raping under age girls When? The caption on the photo says "early 2000s". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein says that the accusation leading to his first criminal case didn't happen until 2005. His conviction didn't happen until 2008. So how does that fit into the "early 2000s" timeline?
larrywright 7y ago
You wouldn’t find it odd that someone who had no children of his own was constantly surrounded by teenage girls? I sure would. Yes, that’s not the same as knowing that they’re being raped, but I’d sure want to distance myself from someone who was behaving like that.
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- ebg13 7y ago
  Being odd is not a crime. What any one person would do is often not a strong indicator of what is right. A lot of people also like to distance themselves from black people. Them being black is not the same as knowing that they're violent criminals, but... The kind of thought process that you're suggesting has very toxic tendrils.
  - larrywright 7y ago
    Let me put it this way: a middle-aged man, with no children of his own, regularly hanging out with underaged girls is more than odd - it’s a warning sign. There really aren’t many (if any) non-sleazy explanations for that behavior. He didn’t even have a credible cover story, like working with disadvantaged young women. Comparing this to avoiding black people based solely on the color of their skin (and not that there are warning signs) is not remotely the same.
    - ebg13 7y ago
      > it’s a warning sign Or it's not, because your preconceptions aren't universal? Is there a factual basis for this other than "I don't like it"? > Comparing this to avoiding black people based solely on the color of their skin (and not that there are warning signs) is not remotely the same. It looks exactly the same to me. Many people think that black skin is a warning sign. The difference is in what you believe, not in what is happening.