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So you disregard a person's all opinions only because he took a selfie with bunch of people and a cartoon character and the 90% of the said cartoon character's

by qazpot 7y ago

So you disregard a person's all opinions only because he took a selfie with bunch of people and a cartoon character and the 90% of the said cartoon character's memes you have seen are racist and horrible.

sprafa 7y ago
Ah well if you see the selfie you might change your mind. But yes. The main thing for me was I rarely if ever see Peterson smile. And in this photo he’s grinning ear to ear.
- _iyig 7y ago
  >The main thing for me was I rarely if ever see Peterson smile. Where do you usually look for his smile? In footage of high-pressure media interviews and public debates? In the photos carefully selected by the editors of whichever news sites you browse? Could be he just likes meeting fans, and is amused by a goofy cartoon frog. See also: Hong Kong protestors’ use of Pepe, and prevalence of the meme among less politically-afflicted but still sad and disaffected young men on the Internet. Also mainstream on Twitch.
  - Glide 7y ago
    It’s sad to see people fall for guilt by association. In most interviews that Jordan Peterson has when he talks about meeting his fans is when he sounds the happiest. This really is what Scott Adams talks about with two movies and one screen. The interpretation of events speaks more about the interpreters rather than the actual events now.
    - sprafa 7y ago
      This is not guilt by association. He didn’t happen to be around when they took the photo, he’s clearly enjoying having the Pepe flag in it. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vkSEmNoqhZY/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vkSEmNoqhZY/maxresdefault.jpg I wasn’t going to mention it because sometimes I think it’s just 4chan trying to have a laugh by making everything appear controversial, but the guy on the left is doing a pseudo white nationalist symbol (even though again, I’ve heard it’s not, but sometimes yes? I don’t know everything is confusing now.) I judge people by their actions as much as their words. And this, to me, is a very strange photo.
      - stronglikedan 7y ago
        > the guy on the left is doing a pseudo white nationalist symbol (even though again, I’ve heard it’s not, but sometimes yes? No, it's not now, and never was. It's always been the "OK" symbol, and always will be (as in, "Everything's okay over here!"). That was just some pathetic campaign from the left to get someone in trouble that merely disagreed with the "agenda".
        simonh 7y ago
        It even has it's own emoji and wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture
        sprafa 7y ago
        Relevant article. The plausible deniability of the gesture seems to be part of its appeal to 4chan and Proud Boy trolls. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white...
        pnw_hazor 7y ago
        Pretty sure the appeal is the outrage it triggers.
        stallmanite 7y ago
        Ok so us normies out here who use the ok gesture and have no idea about the stupid 4 chan meme are going to be considered white nationalists now? Seems like a good way to make a problem where there isn't one.
        sambal 7y ago
        “Normies” don’t use the word “normie”, and the label of harm applied by the SPLC isn’t prescriptivist, your beef is with the white nationalist Internet kids.
        7y ago
    - devtul 7y ago
      It is funny how this can be clearly observed about the OK gesture deal. I would say most people see that as your regular OK gestures, while some see it as final proof of subscription to a particular ethnic related ideology.
- simonh 7y ago
  So lets disregard the hundreds of hours of in depth explanation and analysis of his actual opinion, and condemn him for a decision made in a handful of seconds in a context we don't fully know. Because clearly the worst thing we can find on anyone, interpreted as uncharitably as possible, is the only thing about them that matters. I hope you hold yourself to the same standard.

by qazpot 7y ago

sprafa 7y ago

Ah well if you see the selfie you might change your mind. But yes. The main thing for me was I rarely if ever see Peterson smile. And in this photo he’s grinning ear to ear.

_iyig 7y ago
>The main thing for me was I rarely if ever see Peterson smile. Where do you usually look for his smile? In footage of high-pressure media interviews and public debates? In the photos carefully selected by the editors of whichever news sites you browse? Could be he just likes meeting fans, and is amused by a goofy cartoon frog. See also: Hong Kong protestors’ use of Pepe, and prevalence of the meme among less politically-afflicted but still sad and disaffected young men on the Internet. Also mainstream on Twitch.
- Glide 7y ago
  It’s sad to see people fall for guilt by association. In most interviews that Jordan Peterson has when he talks about meeting his fans is when he sounds the happiest. This really is what Scott Adams talks about with two movies and one screen. The interpretation of events speaks more about the interpreters rather than the actual events now.
  - sprafa 7y ago
    This is not guilt by association. He didn’t happen to be around when they took the photo, he’s clearly enjoying having the Pepe flag in it. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vkSEmNoqhZY/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vkSEmNoqhZY/maxresdefault.jpg I wasn’t going to mention it because sometimes I think it’s just 4chan trying to have a laugh by making everything appear controversial, but the guy on the left is doing a pseudo white nationalist symbol (even though again, I’ve heard it’s not, but sometimes yes? I don’t know everything is confusing now.) I judge people by their actions as much as their words. And this, to me, is a very strange photo.
    - stronglikedan 7y ago
      > the guy on the left is doing a pseudo white nationalist symbol (even though again, I’ve heard it’s not, but sometimes yes? No, it's not now, and never was. It's always been the "OK" symbol, and always will be (as in, "Everything's okay over here!"). That was just some pathetic campaign from the left to get someone in trouble that merely disagreed with the "agenda".
      - simonh 7y ago
        It even has it's own emoji and wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture
      - sprafa 7y ago
        Relevant article. The plausible deniability of the gesture seems to be part of its appeal to 4chan and Proud Boy trolls. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white...
        pnw_hazor 7y ago
        Pretty sure the appeal is the outrage it triggers.
        stallmanite 7y ago
        Ok so us normies out here who use the ok gesture and have no idea about the stupid 4 chan meme are going to be considered white nationalists now? Seems like a good way to make a problem where there isn't one.
        sambal 7y ago
        “Normies” don’t use the word “normie”, and the label of harm applied by the SPLC isn’t prescriptivist, your beef is with the white nationalist Internet kids.
        7y ago
  - devtul 7y ago
    It is funny how this can be clearly observed about the OK gesture deal. I would say most people see that as your regular OK gestures, while some see it as final proof of subscription to a particular ethnic related ideology.
simonh 7y ago
So lets disregard the hundreds of hours of in depth explanation and analysis of his actual opinion, and condemn him for a decision made in a handful of seconds in a context we don't fully know. Because clearly the worst thing we can find on anyone, interpreted as uncharitably as possible, is the only thing about them that matters. I hope you hold yourself to the same standard.