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Absolutely. Microsoft products are horrendous for this. Every time I have to start up my windows VM to test an IE bug I get assaulted by advertising and "news"

Absolutely. Microsoft products are horrendous for this. Every time I have to start up my windows VM to test an IE bug I get assaulted by advertising and "news" in the start menu with bright moving blocks and then I open IE and get hit with it even worse. I don't know why people put up with it tbh.

grepballsoffire 7y ago
I kept on wondering why I hadn't seen any of this, and then remembered that I'd installed Classic Shell start menu, which provides a Windows 7 style menu. It doesn't disable the Windows 10 menu, just hides it. Makes for a much more pleasant experience though. (No affiliation)
- mice 7y ago
  Does it still work reliably? I used it on a Windows 10 machine a few years ago, but then it stopped being maintained: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8147 http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8147 ... which is a huge shame, as that single app alone made Windows 10 a significantly less frustrating experience.
  - grepballsoffire 7y ago
    There was one windows update around two years ago that broke it, but I just reinstalled it and haven't had any problems since.
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    It's rock solid for me.
  - solstice 7y ago
    It's been replaced by Open Shell which works well: https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu
tuco86 7y ago
I followed some 2x reboot windows components uninstall magic some while ago to remove ie and some other "features" i don't remember.. then recently edge was auto installed and made default, Autologin stopped to work, start button got redesign and has an annoying delay. It's a total shitshow by now again until I sacrifice an evening to fix most of this. I was venting to a friend. He told me he'd deactivated autoupdates some years ago. The foresight, i'm envious. But it's too late now and I think I can never have that. I also remember some time there was an anti trust proceeding against Microsoft for shipping IE with windows as default. WTF happened to that and how is all this not a 1000x worse. I definitely don't >want< to put up with this.
- muddi900 7y ago
  There was a ruling against MS, but the judge decided to give an interview that showed he may have been biased. MS got a mistrial, and settled the next one.
MaxBarraclough 7y ago
> I don't know why people put up with it tbh. They don't. [0] Ordinary people install Chrome, and FOSS-aware people install Firefox or one of its variants. Not many use IE/Edge. I second the parent comment to yours: it's a pity Microsoft vandalise solid technology. Perhaps something could've become of Edge, had they done otherwise. There's a certain irony in the way we avoid Edge to avoid its insufferable ads, given that they only make ad money if we decide to use it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Summary_tables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Su...

grepballsoffire 7y ago

I kept on wondering why I hadn't seen any of this, and then remembered that I'd installed Classic Shell start menu, which provides a Windows 7 style menu. It doesn't disable the Windows 10 menu, just hides it. Makes for a much more pleasant experience though. (No affiliation)

mice 7y ago
Does it still work reliably? I used it on a Windows 10 machine a few years ago, but then it stopped being maintained: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8147 http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8147 ... which is a huge shame, as that single app alone made Windows 10 a significantly less frustrating experience.
- grepballsoffire 7y ago
  There was one windows update around two years ago that broke it, but I just reinstalled it and haven't had any problems since.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  It's rock solid for me.
- solstice 7y ago
  It's been replaced by Open Shell which works well: https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

tuco86 7y ago

I followed some 2x reboot windows components uninstall magic some while ago to remove ie and some other "features" i don't remember.. then recently edge was auto installed and made default, Autologin stopped to work, start button got redesign and has an annoying delay. It's a total shitshow by now again until I sacrifice an evening to fix most of this. I was venting to a friend. He told me he'd deactivated autoupdates some years ago. The foresight, i'm envious. But it's too late now and I think I can never have that. I also remember some time there was an anti trust proceeding against Microsoft for shipping IE with windows as default. WTF happened to that and how is all this not a 1000x worse. I definitely don't >want< to put up with this.

muddi900 7y ago
There was a ruling against MS, but the judge decided to give an interview that showed he may have been biased. MS got a mistrial, and settled the next one.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

> I don't know why people put up with it tbh. They don't. [0] Ordinary people install Chrome, and FOSS-aware people install Firefox or one of its variants. Not many use IE/Edge. I second the parent comment to yours: it's a pity Microsoft vandalise solid technology. Perhaps something could've become of Edge, had they done otherwise. There's a certain irony in the way we avoid Edge to avoid its insufferable ads, given that they only make ad money if we decide to use it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Summary_tables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Su...