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Thank you for the information! The idea that the rest of the press did not mention his origins reminds me of another part of the original article: > “Sometime
by tomlockwood 7y ago
Thank you for the information! The idea that the rest of the press did not mention his origins reminds me of another part of the original article:
> “Sometimes we get clients coming in saying, ‘The neighbourhood is full of Tunisians – thank God you guys are here!’” he said, referring to him and his wife, who works alongside him in the bakery. “But we have Tunisian origins too.”
That's another interesting thing to me - which makes me also think about what you said:
> What I've always found interesting as a Frenchman living in North Americ, is that there's no real equivalent to "black american" or "afro American" or "hispano American" in French. The closest you'll find is "of Tunisian origins", but that's usually left out, and not really the same.
I think the core truth here is that even though the effects of racism and xenophobia are quite pronounced, and cannot be dismissed, that all these terms are "made up". I was trolling /pol/ one day and I had someone say to me that the French people weren't "white" which is, truly, consistent with some conceptions of whiteness. But, the most strict original conceptions of whiteness that were made in the 1800s said that Scottish and Irish people weren't white!!! It seems that these sorts of identities twist and change over time, because there's no underlying truth to them. Imagine the rage and fury of those who see white purity as possible when they encounter white hispanic people, or white slavic people, or southern Italians (who made up most american-italian immigrants) saying they are white.
So I think the identity of "Tunisian origins" is just as valid as any other racial identity, and just as indistinct. I don't think the American categories are any better or worse, but it is an interesting point of difference.
- jacobush 7y agoNeither were Swedes white in the USA when they first immigrated. A generation later, they were.
- Xylakant 7y agoNeither were the refugees displaced from the eastern parts of the german reich after WWII. They were dismissed as Polacks (pejorative for polish people) and worse. Sometimes they were from a town no further than 30 or 40 kilometers away - just on the other side of the new border. These sorts of identities are twisted and made up in ways to suit the narrative.