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Same here, but maybe the difference is that we install Windows 10 Pro whereas the author is a Windows 10 Home user? The article doesn't seem to state the versio

by cVwEq 7y ago

Same here, but maybe the difference is that we install Windows 10 Pro whereas the author is a Windows 10 Home user? The article doesn't seem to state the version they are using. Most annoying is that there are a large number of little bits of functionality that phone home or send information out into the ether: Windows Defender and its submitting of samples, searching via the Windows button, Task Scheduled telemetry items, a plethora of Control Panel privacy settings, etc. etc. etc. Also annoying on Windows 10 Pro is that the same windows builds have slightly different functionality --- even if the machines have the exact same hardware. For example, the Search History and Permissions is sometimes named Change the permissions and history of search, even for the same Windows 10 build. It's bizarre. Also, don't get me started on the intellisense typing when the windows menu is open. (Really Windows, when I press the Start button and then type in Update, you search the web and show me Wikipedia information? And it takes like 5 seconds?) Don't forget the lame This PC icon... Sorry, this turned into a cathartic listing of Win 10 grievances. :)

sofaofthedamned 7y ago
Wikipedia in this situation always uses Edge as the browser. I wonder if this helps inflate their user stats?
- iggldiggl 7y ago
  Try EdgeDeflector (https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector).
zokier 7y ago
Another major difference probably is people who log in to Microsoft account vs local account. I don't remember seeing web results in my start menu, is that a Cortana thing? I suspect that there are also regional differences, more crap being pushed to US consumers
- AstralStorm 7y ago
  Web results are still toggled, if you do not agree to Microsoft's data processing during installation you won't get that "feature". That said, search is downgraded from 7s. For instance, it doesn't look at start menu folder names nor executable name anymore...
  - cm2187 7y ago
    Control panel items not showing in the start menu results anymore when you search is also in Win10 and it drives me crazy. It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. I just don’t get how things like than wouldn’t annoy them too. My guess is that decision making in large companies is so slow, so bureaucratic, that everyone has given up on shipping anything else than a mediocre product, even if people individually would design it very differently if they could.
    - input_sh 7y ago
      > It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. Or maybe they're trying to kill the Control Panel all together and switch everyone to the new Settings app, but are aware that doing so immediately would lead to a lot of complaints? So they have both, while slowly nudging you towards using the Settings app so you wouldn't be too angry when you wake up one day in the future and find the Control Panel completely gone.
      - cm2187 7y ago
        Except that until the functionalities of the control panel have been replicated in the new settings, we still need a way to access the control panel. Hiding those functionalities from search in between just doesn't make sense at all.
        tasogare 7y ago
        And even when functionally fully replicated, the settings app UI is really questionable, and somewhat hard to use.
gurkendoktor 7y ago
> maybe the difference is that we install Windows 10 Pro whereas the author is a Windows 10 Home user No, every installation of Windows 10 Pro I've seen had a start menu that was mostly ads (links to Candy Crush, Spotify, Office etc.) - I've also had the OS nag me about giving Edge a second chance. This is in Germany, in case the region matters, and I always deny all spyware as far as possible using the GUI.
- throwaway8941 7y ago
  Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage This is the first thing I run on any Windows box I am forced to interact with. Removes all the junk in the Start menu in one command.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - derekbaker783 7y ago
    Doesn't that also remove Calculator?
    - r1ch 7y ago
      Yeah don't do this - I did this once and I ended up having to reinstall since it broke enough stuff that the control panel wouldn't even work afterwards.
      - gerdesj 7y ago
        I've just done it to a VM and Control Panel is still there. I suggest you run: get-appxpackage -allusers | fl name and curate the list first and pipe that through remove-appxpackage. Quite a few appx thingies refused to uninstall due to being important! On the other hand so far this VM is working fine and by following a few of the other suggestions from howtogeek eg remove Bing from your start menu, it seems almost usable.
  - aphextim 7y ago
fuzzy2 7y ago
Windows 10 Pro has everything this article mentions. Maybe Microsoft doesn’t enable all of the nags depending on where you’re living.

by cVwEq 7y ago

sofaofthedamned 7y ago

Wikipedia in this situation always uses Edge as the browser. I wonder if this helps inflate their user stats?

iggldiggl 7y ago
Try EdgeDeflector (https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector).

zokier 7y ago

Another major difference probably is people who log in to Microsoft account vs local account. I don't remember seeing web results in my start menu, is that a Cortana thing? I suspect that there are also regional differences, more crap being pushed to US consumers

AstralStorm 7y ago
Web results are still toggled, if you do not agree to Microsoft's data processing during installation you won't get that "feature". That said, search is downgraded from 7s. For instance, it doesn't look at start menu folder names nor executable name anymore...
- cm2187 7y ago
  Control panel items not showing in the start menu results anymore when you search is also in Win10 and it drives me crazy. It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. I just don’t get how things like than wouldn’t annoy them too. My guess is that decision making in large companies is so slow, so bureaucratic, that everyone has given up on shipping anything else than a mediocre product, even if people individually would design it very differently if they could.
  - input_sh 7y ago
    > It literally looks like the guys designing windows must be using a Mac themselves, or just aren’t computer guys. Or maybe they're trying to kill the Control Panel all together and switch everyone to the new Settings app, but are aware that doing so immediately would lead to a lot of complaints? So they have both, while slowly nudging you towards using the Settings app so you wouldn't be too angry when you wake up one day in the future and find the Control Panel completely gone.
    - cm2187 7y ago
      Except that until the functionalities of the control panel have been replicated in the new settings, we still need a way to access the control panel. Hiding those functionalities from search in between just doesn't make sense at all.
      - tasogare 7y ago
        And even when functionally fully replicated, the settings app UI is really questionable, and somewhat hard to use.

gurkendoktor 7y ago

> maybe the difference is that we install Windows 10 Pro whereas the author is a Windows 10 Home user No, every installation of Windows 10 Pro I've seen had a start menu that was mostly ads (links to Candy Crush, Spotify, Office etc.) - I've also had the OS nag me about giving Edge a second chance. This is in Germany, in case the region matters, and I always deny all spyware as far as possible using the GUI.

throwaway8941 7y ago
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage This is the first thing I run on any Windows box I am forced to interact with. Removes all the junk in the Start menu in one command.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- derekbaker783 7y ago
  Doesn't that also remove Calculator?
  - r1ch 7y ago
    Yeah don't do this - I did this once and I ended up having to reinstall since it broke enough stuff that the control panel wouldn't even work afterwards.
    - gerdesj 7y ago
      I've just done it to a VM and Control Panel is still there. I suggest you run: get-appxpackage -allusers | fl name and curate the list first and pipe that through remove-appxpackage. Quite a few appx thingies refused to uninstall due to being important! On the other hand so far this VM is working fine and by following a few of the other suggestions from howtogeek eg remove Bing from your start menu, it seems almost usable.
- aphextim 7y ago

fuzzy2 7y ago

Windows 10 Pro has everything this article mentions. Maybe Microsoft doesn’t enable all of the nags depending on where you’re living.