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While this is all somewhat interesting, I'm not sure what the point here is - all of these things seem to be reasonable things to do?

jdavis703 7y ago
Well at a minimum it should be a relief that they aren't doing anything you'd consider nefarious.
jjeaff 7y ago
I didn't think that the Opera startup was acceptable at all. It preloaded cookies from more than a dozen 3rd party sites.
- bad_user 7y ago
  Opera is basically compromised and people should know about it.
  - tpxl 7y ago
    Can you give some more info on this? A quick DDG search revealed nothing.
    - alienallys 7y ago
      That's when you go to Google. Asking us is akin to using us as a proxy for Google.
      - kevingrahl 7y ago
        One could use the Startpage bang !sp to use them as a proxy for Google.
      - tpxl 7y ago
        I googled it and got a bunch of articles about data breaches of Opera services. What I understood the GP post to be is that the owners of the browser do shady stuff, which I found no evidence for on Google (or DDG). So was Opera compromised by a third party or is Opera compromised by the first party (malicious owners?).
tannhaeuser 7y ago
You call FF displaying pro-privacy promotionals while connecting to GA and Google Tag Manager reasonable?
- kdbg 7y ago
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14
- piotrkubisa 7y ago
  Heads up, Mozilla is on the way to be notorious Google services/Google Cloud user [0]. Recently, they started adoption of the Google Spanner in the Firefox-Sync related backend services, while in others they adopted the Google Pub Sub. The use of GA and GTM might seem like hypocrisy but my guess mozillians don't have enough workforce and/or assets to control infrastructure to roll their own analytics platform. [0]: https://github.com/search?q=org%3Amozilla-services+google&type=Commits https://github.com/search?q=org%3Amozilla-services+google&ty...
  - tannhaeuser 7y ago
    > mozillians don't have enough workforce and/or assets to control infrastructure to roll their own analytics platform That's hardly an excuse when you want to differentiate on privacy, is it?
    - AsyncAwait 7y ago
      Worth noting that Mozilla does have a special contract with Google, they say preserver privacy.
      - tannhaeuser 7y ago
        Yet still I think we should point it out. Mozilla can't have their cake, and eat it, too.
- mda 7y ago

jdavis703 7y ago

Well at a minimum it should be a relief that they aren't doing anything you'd consider nefarious.

jjeaff 7y ago

I didn't think that the Opera startup was acceptable at all. It preloaded cookies from more than a dozen 3rd party sites.

bad_user 7y ago
Opera is basically compromised and people should know about it.
- tpxl 7y ago
  Can you give some more info on this? A quick DDG search revealed nothing.
  - alienallys 7y ago
    That's when you go to Google. Asking us is akin to using us as a proxy for Google.
    - kevingrahl 7y ago
      One could use the Startpage bang !sp to use them as a proxy for Google.
    - tpxl 7y ago
      I googled it and got a bunch of articles about data breaches of Opera services. What I understood the GP post to be is that the owners of the browser do shady stuff, which I found no evidence for on Google (or DDG). So was Opera compromised by a third party or is Opera compromised by the first party (malicious owners?).

tannhaeuser 7y ago

You call FF displaying pro-privacy promotionals while connecting to GA and Google Tag Manager reasonable?

kdbg 7y ago
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697436#c14
piotrkubisa 7y ago
Heads up, Mozilla is on the way to be notorious Google services/Google Cloud user [0]. Recently, they started adoption of the Google Spanner in the Firefox-Sync related backend services, while in others they adopted the Google Pub Sub. The use of GA and GTM might seem like hypocrisy but my guess mozillians don't have enough workforce and/or assets to control infrastructure to roll their own analytics platform. [0]: https://github.com/search?q=org%3Amozilla-services+google&type=Commits https://github.com/search?q=org%3Amozilla-services+google&ty...
- tannhaeuser 7y ago
  > mozillians don't have enough workforce and/or assets to control infrastructure to roll their own analytics platform That's hardly an excuse when you want to differentiate on privacy, is it?
  - AsyncAwait 7y ago
    Worth noting that Mozilla does have a special contract with Google, they say preserver privacy.
    - tannhaeuser 7y ago
      Yet still I think we should point it out. Mozilla can't have their cake, and eat it, too.
mda 7y ago