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This smacks of inventing reasons. Certainly some people are allergic. Of the rest... > some dogs are unpredictable ; some dogs bite ; some dogs bark ; pull the

This smacks of inventing reasons. Certainly some people are allergic. Of the rest... > some dogs are unpredictable ; some dogs bite ; some dogs bark ; pull the dog's ears... set the dog off Well, hello? If my dog did or reacted to any of those, I would heavily restrict the places I thought it was suitable to take it. It's entirely on the owner if those behaviours result, anyway - presuming the dog doesn't have an advanced illness affecting continence. Once again, it's on the owner or handler to judge appropriately. > some small kids/toddlers don't (and shouldn't) Shouldn't? I am puzzled by this. Surely it is appropriate for all children to be exposed to safe and predictable animals, and to learn appropriate behaviour with animals? One of the training habits I have with my dogs while they're very young, is to often take them to the local school at home time, and the local town shopping centre at peak times. Puppy learns huge amounts of unpredictable small humans aren't harmful, but are very friendly if rather clumsy. Children and parents learn that puppies can be well behaved and trained too, and don't react at all to having ears pulled... If there is a parent obviously uncomfortable with the large puppy, well I keep the dog away from those folks. It's not compulsory for everyone to like animals or dogs, or to come over and pat it. > large number of dog owners are irresponsible That's the problem, and should be the target of any corrective measures and restrictions. That all said I am a bit puzzled with taking the dogs everywhere. Some pubs welcome dogs and I might take them there, shops don't, so the dogs don't accompany. As is described in this thread just doesn't happen in the UK. A couple of small employers have welcomed dogs in small amounts - because someone senior had a mutt, nearly all workplaces I've encountered don't.

decebalus1 7y ago
> Well, hello? If my dog did or reacted to any of those, I would heavily restrict the places I thought it was suitable to take it. It's entirely on the owner if those behaviours result, anyway - presuming the dog doesn't have an advanced illness affecting continence. Once again, it's on the owner or handler to judge appropriately. > If there is a parent obviously uncomfortable with the large puppy, well I keep the dog away from those folks. It's not compulsory for everyone to like animals or dogs, or to come over and pat it. That's you. Lots of people I meet (for example in my building's elevator) think it's completely acceptable to keep the dog on a long leash, have it jump strangers and have a laugh about it. Just the other day a neighbor's dog charged at me out of the blue, with its ears pulled back. I saw it when I turned around, the dog surprised me and the owner was just looking at the whole thing. Luckily the dog was leashed. He also thought it was funny, because <quote> "he never does that! You must be nervous or something" and just brushed it off. You sound responsible. A lot of people with dogs are not. We move with a speed matching the slowest of us. I would like to drive my car really fast. I got my drivers license in a country with standards way higher than the US. My car is well maintained, I never consume drugs or alcohol, never drove tired and never use my cellphone, I am 100% focused on my driving and drove hundreds of thousands of kilometers on three continents. But Jimmy likes to shave in the car on the way to work in the morning and hit a construction crew so now the speed limit is 45 MPH. Get it?

decebalus1 7y ago

> Well, hello? If my dog did or reacted to any of those, I would heavily restrict the places I thought it was suitable to take it. It's entirely on the owner if those behaviours result, anyway - presuming the dog doesn't have an advanced illness affecting continence. Once again, it's on the owner or handler to judge appropriately. > If there is a parent obviously uncomfortable with the large puppy, well I keep the dog away from those folks. It's not compulsory for everyone to like animals or dogs, or to come over and pat it. That's you. Lots of people I meet (for example in my building's elevator) think it's completely acceptable to keep the dog on a long leash, have it jump strangers and have a laugh about it. Just the other day a neighbor's dog charged at me out of the blue, with its ears pulled back. I saw it when I turned around, the dog surprised me and the owner was just looking at the whole thing. Luckily the dog was leashed. He also thought it was funny, because <quote> "he never does that! You must be nervous or something" and just brushed it off. You sound responsible. A lot of people with dogs are not. We move with a speed matching the slowest of us. I would like to drive my car really fast. I got my drivers license in a country with standards way higher than the US. My car is well maintained, I never consume drugs or alcohol, never drove tired and never use my cellphone, I am 100% focused on my driving and drove hundreds of thousands of kilometers on three continents. But Jimmy likes to shave in the car on the way to work in the morning and hit a construction crew so now the speed limit is 45 MPH. Get it?