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> he most cogent criticism of the original post, I think, was that he was conflating cheap art with bad art. You can (and some indies do) have very cheap lo-fi

> he most cogent criticism of the original post, I think, was that he was conflating cheap art with bad art. You can (and some indies do) have very cheap lo-fi art that still looks good in context. He does not, which is fine, because it is hard. You are conflating lo-fi art with cheap and/or bad lo-fi art. "Cheap lo-fi art that looks good" is not a thing, because the talent that can make something lo-fi also look good and, more importantly, provide good art direction for an extensive project is not cheap. We are not talking a screen full of pixels or two. These games would require thousands upon thousands of art tiles, that all aim for a distinguishable, consistent and unique in overall style. As you said, it's hard. That makes it expensive, in either time or money, or both.

_chris_ 7y ago
> "Cheap lo-fi art that looks good" is not a thing Dwarf Fortress was literally an exhibit in MOMA; it can look downright beautiful, despite being nothing but ASCII letters in different shades of colors: https://www.moma.org/media/W1siZiIsIjI1NTc0MSJdLFsicCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCItcmVzaXplIDIwMDB4MjAwMFx1MDAzZSJdXQ.jpg?sha=8787fea73e43f715 https://www.moma.org/media/W1siZiIsIjI1NTc0MSJdLFsicCIsImNvb...
Lazare 7y ago
> You are conflating lo-fi art with cheap and/or bad lo-fi art. "Cheap lo-fi art that looks good" is not a thing, because the talent that can make something lo-fi also look good and, more importantly, provide good art direction for an extensive project is not cheap. And I would say you are conflating art with design/art direction. :) > We are not talking a screen full of pixels or two. These games would require thousands upon thousands of art tiles, that all aim for a distinguishable, consistent and unique in overall style. I mean, one of the examples given was ADOM: https://i.imgur.com/d0RpSnY.png https://i.imgur.com/d0RpSnY.png There's a lot of ways of solving this particular problem.

_chris_ 7y ago

> "Cheap lo-fi art that looks good" is not a thing Dwarf Fortress was literally an exhibit in MOMA; it can look downright beautiful, despite being nothing but ASCII letters in different shades of colors: https://www.moma.org/media/W1siZiIsIjI1NTc0MSJdLFsicCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCItcmVzaXplIDIwMDB4MjAwMFx1MDAzZSJdXQ.jpg?sha=8787fea73e43f715 https://www.moma.org/media/W1siZiIsIjI1NTc0MSJdLFsicCIsImNvb...

Lazare 7y ago

> You are conflating lo-fi art with cheap and/or bad lo-fi art. "Cheap lo-fi art that looks good" is not a thing, because the talent that can make something lo-fi also look good and, more importantly, provide good art direction for an extensive project is not cheap. And I would say you are conflating art with design/art direction. :) > We are not talking a screen full of pixels or two. These games would require thousands upon thousands of art tiles, that all aim for a distinguishable, consistent and unique in overall style. I mean, one of the examples given was ADOM: https://i.imgur.com/d0RpSnY.png https://i.imgur.com/d0RpSnY.png There's a lot of ways of solving this particular problem.