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So there are basically 2 possibilities. It is possible for Huawei, and Chinese companies in general, to build a successful alternative without using American t

So there are basically 2 possibilities. It is possible for Huawei, and Chinese companies in general, to build a successful alternative without using American technology (for the purposes of this post, I'm defining successful as equivalent to their American tech using competitors). It's not possible. What the actions on Huawei have done, however, is ensure that if that possibility exists, very significant chunks of Chinese resources will be devoted to finding it. It appears China had decided this wasn't completely necessary, and were happy to rely on Americans for software, and core hardware. But that is obviously not true anymore, and the biggest long term effect of these actions are Chinese state resources being poured into directly combating and threatening American tech's competitive position. And seeing that the tariffs and capricious action has not been limited to China, it won't even be surprising if some other nations join in to help, especially from the EU and/or India and Korea.

Fr0styMatt88 7y ago
I think this is actually a good outcome, at least from a standpoint of avoiding a technical monoculture (especially in hardware). It's probably also good for general innovation as a whole.
erichocean 7y ago
> without using American technology Eh, RISC-V was developed at UC Berkeley. In the United States.
- AsyncAwait 7y ago
  The implication there was patented. Linux for example has been developed all over the world, yet am sure the administration would happily claim it's American as well, just because of where the Linux Foundation is located, but that doesn't matter as long as it's open.
jsizzle 7y ago
It also shows how short sighted USA is with this. They’ve given China incentive to reduce their reliance on the US and give the US less leverage overall. China may set a damaging precedent here with regard to US power
- mark_l_watson 7y ago
  +1 Unfortunately, I totally agree with you. I think that we are making a long term strategy blunder.
- sangnoir 7y ago
  > China may set a damaging precedent here with regard to US power I'd say precedent was set when congress blocked China from joining the ISS, leading to China developing its own space station program.

Fr0styMatt88 7y ago

I think this is actually a good outcome, at least from a standpoint of avoiding a technical monoculture (especially in hardware). It's probably also good for general innovation as a whole.

erichocean 7y ago

> without using American technology Eh, RISC-V was developed at UC Berkeley. In the United States.

AsyncAwait 7y ago
The implication there was patented. Linux for example has been developed all over the world, yet am sure the administration would happily claim it's American as well, just because of where the Linux Foundation is located, but that doesn't matter as long as it's open.

jsizzle 7y ago

It also shows how short sighted USA is with this. They’ve given China incentive to reduce their reliance on the US and give the US less leverage overall. China may set a damaging precedent here with regard to US power

mark_l_watson 7y ago
+1 Unfortunately, I totally agree with you. I think that we are making a long term strategy blunder.
sangnoir 7y ago
> China may set a damaging precedent here with regard to US power I'd say precedent was set when congress blocked China from joining the ISS, leading to China developing its own space station program.