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Does anyone believe in an all powerful being in the sky? That's such a superficial strawman that it just sounds like an excuse to not investigate. Given that

Does anyone believe in an all powerful being in the sky? That's such a superficial strawman that it just sounds like an excuse to not investigate. Given that you appear to feel strongly about this, you owe it to yourself to look into this more deeply.

rubicon33 7y ago
Well, I'm certainly open to being convinced otherwise. And I have made efforts to understand the world. Existential thinking is not foreign to me, in the slightest. That's lead me to - among others - books like "Why does the world exist" by Jim Holt. Ultimately, despite everything I've read and watched, including an upbringing in the Christian church... I can only draw the conclusion that we just don't know. We have no idea if there's a super being, but there's decent reason to BELIEVE that there isn't. Belief ironically, IS what it boils down to. I just don't believe in 2019, that the likelihood is an all present God.
- tomohawk 7y ago
  The world is a hard place, and belief that offers hope and something worth putting your faith in is hard to come by. If you have not found a belief that offers hope, then keep looking.
  - rubicon33 7y ago
    I feel like I've been looking my entire life. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, or maybe it's a lost cause. It's true I haven't traveled to eastern asia and studied under the tutelage of a monk, I haven't taken ayahuasca from a shaman in the Amazon, I haven't drank the cool-aid at a Mormon retreat, or attended a Joel Osteen mega church sermon. I just grew up in America, in a Catholic family. Went to church most Sundays until I was a teenager. There's a vide of me at a young age, asking (essentially) why we are here/alive. Seems that I'm still asking that. So maybe you could say I haven't really been looking. But honestly, I think you have to believe in something a priori. You don't go to a shaman in the amazon because you want to believe, you go because you already do and you want to validate that.

rubicon33 7y ago

Well, I'm certainly open to being convinced otherwise. And I have made efforts to understand the world. Existential thinking is not foreign to me, in the slightest. That's lead me to - among others - books like "Why does the world exist" by Jim Holt. Ultimately, despite everything I've read and watched, including an upbringing in the Christian church... I can only draw the conclusion that we just don't know. We have no idea if there's a super being, but there's decent reason to BELIEVE that there isn't. Belief ironically, IS what it boils down to. I just don't believe in 2019, that the likelihood is an all present God.

tomohawk 7y ago
The world is a hard place, and belief that offers hope and something worth putting your faith in is hard to come by. If you have not found a belief that offers hope, then keep looking.
- rubicon33 7y ago
  I feel like I've been looking my entire life. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, or maybe it's a lost cause. It's true I haven't traveled to eastern asia and studied under the tutelage of a monk, I haven't taken ayahuasca from a shaman in the Amazon, I haven't drank the cool-aid at a Mormon retreat, or attended a Joel Osteen mega church sermon. I just grew up in America, in a Catholic family. Went to church most Sundays until I was a teenager. There's a vide of me at a young age, asking (essentially) why we are here/alive. Seems that I'm still asking that. So maybe you could say I haven't really been looking. But honestly, I think you have to believe in something a priori. You don't go to a shaman in the amazon because you want to believe, you go because you already do and you want to validate that.