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Well, yeah I'm talking about "nations" but you can't have nationalism without a nation. And you can't have a nation without the idea of citizenship or borders r

• gourabmi 7y ago
  Don't let the wordplay confuse you. There can definitely be nationalism without a nation. One of many examples being Kurdistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan
• dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Well, yeah I'm talking about "nations" but you can't have nationalism without a nation. Correct, basically. > And you can't have a nation without the idea of citizenship or borders right? Wrong: citizenship and, especially, borders are features of the association with and territorial limits of the jurisdiction of a state. A nation is an identity group which may or may not have a state, a state is a political unit which may or may not be tightly associated with a nation. The modern nation-state system is one in which there is a norm that states tend to be coextensive with nations, and where that isn't the case either nations try to carve out states or states try to create new national identities.