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50% of desktop web users. The encoding landscape is considerably different in the mobile world, and will be until Android tablets are both released and then ado

by sudont 16y ago

50% of desktop web users. The encoding landscape is considerably different in the mobile world, and will be until Android tablets are both released and then adopted in large enough quantities. Currently though, most video is still in h.264 format and either served via Quicktime [edit: Media Framework] for iOS, or Flash for PC.

ecaroth 16y ago
Good point - I am getting really excited about some of the new players and ideas in the html5 video space. Just applied for the beta of http://sublimevideo.net/ http://sublimevideo.net/ - very promising, html5 video w/ flash fallback and mobile support.
- Heff 16y ago
  Sublime is great, but closed-source and is going to charge for use. Many of the open source players beyond just VideoJS are just as good, IMO. Also depends on what you need.
Heff 16y ago
Yes, it's definitely different in the mobile world. Mobile is still a very small portion of overall web use though. It's difficult to tell if StatCounter includes all mobile browsers in their overall stats, but they do at least include the iPad. Either way it would barely make a dent in overall numbers. http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_vs_desktop-ww-monthly-200912-201012 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_vs_desktop-ww-monthly-2009... You can see a comparison of mobile OSs here: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-200912-201012 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-200912-20101...
- sudont 16y ago
  I'd have to say the benefit of html5 video is greater on mobile devices and Macs, domains where Flash performance has traditionally been terrible, and where a content provider will most likely spend effort in patching UX. It'll be a bit until WebM chipsets come out for the incoming flood of Android tablets, and since h.264 is the easiest target, I can't see the current statistics really influencing the encoding of video until Android can make a dent. Flash video works great for the 90% of computers running Windows and the plugin, so why fix something that works?
alanh 16y ago
Wait, what’s the fraction on Mobile? Because it’s not like the percentage of mobile web users who have full Flash is anywhere near 50%, it’s gotta be less than that!
duskwuff 16y ago
Er, I'm pretty certain iOS supports HTML5 video just fine as it is. QuickTime doesn't exist on iOS.
- sudont 16y ago
  You're right, I meant Media Player framework.
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by sudont 16y ago

ecaroth 16y ago

Good point - I am getting really excited about some of the new players and ideas in the html5 video space. Just applied for the beta of http://sublimevideo.net/ http://sublimevideo.net/ - very promising, html5 video w/ flash fallback and mobile support.

Heff 16y ago
Sublime is great, but closed-source and is going to charge for use. Many of the open source players beyond just VideoJS are just as good, IMO. Also depends on what you need.

Heff 16y ago

Yes, it's definitely different in the mobile world. Mobile is still a very small portion of overall web use though. It's difficult to tell if StatCounter includes all mobile browsers in their overall stats, but they do at least include the iPad. Either way it would barely make a dent in overall numbers. http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_vs_desktop-ww-monthly-200912-201012 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_vs_desktop-ww-monthly-2009... You can see a comparison of mobile OSs here: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-200912-201012 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-200912-20101...

sudont 16y ago
I'd have to say the benefit of html5 video is greater on mobile devices and Macs, domains where Flash performance has traditionally been terrible, and where a content provider will most likely spend effort in patching UX. It'll be a bit until WebM chipsets come out for the incoming flood of Android tablets, and since h.264 is the easiest target, I can't see the current statistics really influencing the encoding of video until Android can make a dent. Flash video works great for the 90% of computers running Windows and the plugin, so why fix something that works?

alanh 16y ago

Wait, what’s the fraction on Mobile? Because it’s not like the percentage of mobile web users who have full Flash is anywhere near 50%, it’s gotta be less than that!

duskwuff 16y ago

Er, I'm pretty certain iOS supports HTML5 video just fine as it is. QuickTime doesn't exist on iOS.

sudont 16y ago
You're right, I meant Media Player framework.
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