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I was a vegetarian, vegan, then back to vegetarian, then flexitarian, and now predominately carnivore -- over the course of 15 years. The me from 2 years ago w
by anonymouswacker 7y ago
I was a vegetarian, vegan, then back to vegetarian, then flexitarian, and now predominately carnivore -- over the course of 15 years.
The me from 2 years ago would be overjoyed about this "progress", from an ethical standpoint and from believing that meat is bad for you.
Present me sees this as what it is: another unhealthy product in an already oversaturated marketplace to dupe suckers.
- phil248 7y agoI have a hard time understanding how a proponent of vegetarianism, presuming you are one, could be so dismissive of a technological advancement that will almost certainly lead to reduced meat consumption.
- anonymouswacker 7y agoI am as health and environmentally conscious now as I ever was, only aware that vegetarian & vegan diets in America are atrociously unhealthy. Offering cheap, low quality, fake food is not a technological advancement. And I am not sure meat consumption is the problem. Factory farming and industrialized agriculture are the big issues: the greed of the majority of the food supply causes death, destruction, and misery on beings regardless if you are eating kale or cow. Eat pasture-raised & local if you care about the environment and your own health...
- SeanBoocock 7y ago> only aware that vegetarian & vegan diets in America are atrociously unhealthy That is in contradiction to every major health organization in the US and abroad. Well balanced vegan and vegetarian diets are healthy and appropriate for every stage of life. If you care about the environment and want to make food choices that minimize your impact, don't eat animal products, especially beef.
- anonymouswacker 7y agoYes... but large organizations (“major”) are bureaucratic, political organizations predominately funded by, not healthy consumers or scientists, but governments and food/pharma/tech industries. Follow the money, check the biases, and see that the existence of the organization would be jeopardized by biting the hand that feeds it...
- idreyn 7y agoHow did your reasoning about the ethics of eating meat evolve over this time?
- anonymouswacker 7y agoI learned more about human biology, how to read research studies, and to self-experiment rather than just "reason". Having low testosterone, constant pain, mental health problems, etc. before and during my vegetarian/vegan experiment seemed like it was "NORMAL". I read a little bit about the foods I was eating causing inflammation, which has a high impact on all of this, and how keto & carnivore diets were low inflammation, and affected biomarkers that I do not even understand. I switched to low carb vegetarian, but this did not help much. And it was not satiating. And it's expensive. And, from what I've read from the authorities I somewhat trust, it is not as healthy. I then switch to all meat (literally steak, eggs, butter, and salt) for a couple of weeks and my mood and body composition improved immensely. I wouldn't recommend that diet long-term, but it made me realize that life did not have to be as miserable as it was on the vegetarian diet...
- idreyn 7y agoThanks for sharing, I'm glad you found a diet that works for you.
- anonymouswacker 7y agoThank you! It only took so long because of my hubris and obstinacy. I hope you have found wellness and happiness, too.