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I can't understand how people enjoy this fake food. It just can't match the original taste. This sort of food is extremely unhealthy, and vegans will never be a

I can't understand how people enjoy this fake food. It just can't match the original taste. This sort of food is extremely unhealthy, and vegans will never be able to get the protein they need to survive. We should not encourage the appeasing of certain niche markets, the radicals must be made to realize that normal KFC is just a fact of life.

saagarjha 7y ago
> vegans will never be able to get the protein they need to survive There are millions of vegans around the world who can "survive" without meat: they just get their protein from other places.
- kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
  They're dependent on technological intervention to get the required supplements. It isn't a natural way for humans to persist.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    They may occasionally need certain vitamins that are rare in plants, but it's inaccurate to classify vegans as unable to satisfy their protein requirements. (And FWIW, there are natural vegetarian cultures that have survived without supplements.)
    - esyir 7y ago
      Vegetarians are fine, but vegans are at particular risk. I assume that's why op mentioned them to begin with.
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        They mentioned protein in particular, which isn't really that big of a deal (as opposed to certain other nutrients like Vitamin B-12, which can often be a problem).
  - wes-k 7y ago
    I’ll just leave this here for you: https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/humans-are-omnivores https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/humans-are-omnivores
  - phil248 7y ago
    Sure, but "cooking" is technological intervention, so the bar you are setting seems low to the point of being meaningless.
  - jasonvorhe 7y ago
    So do sick people.
bradbeattie 7y ago
How long do you suppose vegans could go before they die from lack of protein? A month? A year? 10 years?
- Kaveren 7y ago
  They will not literally die but they will not be healthy at all, many of them will likely live less than non-vegans. It is a dangerous lifestyle motivated by poor reasoning.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Have you ever met a vegan?
    - Kaveren 7y ago
      Judging by your reply I think I have now.
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        I'm not a vegan, if that's what you're asking: I'm vegetarian. But I assure you that vegans are not sickly due to protein deficiencies; they simply get it from other places.
  - bradbeattie 7y ago
    Okay, so not death. But other health issues? Can you point me to a relevant meta-analysis on PubMed or something? Because all I'm seeing from national dietetic organizations is support for the diet. > A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults. https://www.dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidlines-for-Vegans.aspx https://www.dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidlines-for...

saagarjha 7y ago

> vegans will never be able to get the protein they need to survive There are millions of vegans around the world who can "survive" without meat: they just get their protein from other places.

kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
They're dependent on technological intervention to get the required supplements. It isn't a natural way for humans to persist.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  They may occasionally need certain vitamins that are rare in plants, but it's inaccurate to classify vegans as unable to satisfy their protein requirements. (And FWIW, there are natural vegetarian cultures that have survived without supplements.)
  - esyir 7y ago
    Vegetarians are fine, but vegans are at particular risk. I assume that's why op mentioned them to begin with.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      They mentioned protein in particular, which isn't really that big of a deal (as opposed to certain other nutrients like Vitamin B-12, which can often be a problem).
- wes-k 7y ago
  I’ll just leave this here for you: https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/humans-are-omnivores https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/humans-are-omnivores
- phil248 7y ago
  Sure, but "cooking" is technological intervention, so the bar you are setting seems low to the point of being meaningless.
- jasonvorhe 7y ago
  So do sick people.

bradbeattie 7y ago

How long do you suppose vegans could go before they die from lack of protein? A month? A year? 10 years?

Kaveren 7y ago
They will not literally die but they will not be healthy at all, many of them will likely live less than non-vegans. It is a dangerous lifestyle motivated by poor reasoning.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Have you ever met a vegan?
  - Kaveren 7y ago
    Judging by your reply I think I have now.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      I'm not a vegan, if that's what you're asking: I'm vegetarian. But I assure you that vegans are not sickly due to protein deficiencies; they simply get it from other places.
- bradbeattie 7y ago
  Okay, so not death. But other health issues? Can you point me to a relevant meta-analysis on PubMed or something? Because all I'm seeing from national dietetic organizations is support for the diet. > A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults. https://www.dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidlines-for-Vegans.aspx https://www.dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidlines-for...