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The reason I consider ending my life is because I've done or experienced all the things that realistically I want to or can. I'm never going to be an attractive

The reason I consider ending my life is because I've done or experienced all the things that realistically I want to or can. I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids. It's just not worth it to me to work to pay to sustain myself just to watch the planet be destroyed and the social fabric disintegrate. There's just nothing worth the time or effort when living is just so unenjoyable.

asveikau 7y ago
> I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids. This pops out to me. I don't know your full circumstances but I don't think this is true. If we focus only on the attractiveness aspect: I've known plenty of people of both genders who I thought were "unattractive" people (a very subjective term!) and they were partnered. If your desire is to find a partner, don't give up on it or consider it an inevitable failure! You are worthy. Then it makes me consider if there's some other health issue preventing finding a partner or having a kid? Surely, a few of those exist, and I can imagine them being very sad.
- 0xffff2 7y ago
  I think it's important to distinguish physical attraction from net total attraction. Usually when people say "attractive" they mean the former, but I think GP may mean the latter. I'm probably about average physically, but I have my own set of personality issues that make me pretty damn unattractive on the whole. I doubt I would be interested in anyone who was so fucked up that they were interested in me. I've come to terms with my situation and I'm not the least be suicidal, but I think it's important to tread carefully when talking about this stuff online, where you have so little context. Someone who says "I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids" has probably thought about it more than you have, and certainly knows their own situation much better than you do. I think it's extremely unhelpful to give them platitudes like "You are worthy". Maybe they are, but you're really not in a position to know.
  - asveikau 7y ago
    It's quaint that you think you cannot apply a nonphysical meaning for "attractive" to my comment and see that the point still stands. I think you're probably wrong about yourself too. And yes I did call out that I don't know the full circumstances.
    - 0xffff2 7y ago
      And I think it's very presumptuous of you to think that you know my own circumstances better than I do. Both of your comments are, frankly, condescending to a degree I find slightly insulting and I have no further desire to continue this conversation.
umvi 7y ago
> I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids. At a certain point though everybody becomes unattractive. Do you think old couples still look attractive? There's love out there for you if you are willing to invest in it. Sure, you might not be super attracted to their looks initially, but over time you become attracted to the person, which transcends superficial properties of people. Do you think I would stop loving my wife if she got in a car accident and became super unattractive because of burn scarring? Of course not! Love is an investment... you get out what you put in.
otterpop 7y ago
I feel it, man. I'm financially stable at the job I was aiming for in college, but now it feels like I'm just going through the motions every day. Not interested in love and not able to dedicate the amount of time and effort to my hobbies that I would need to be great at them. It just seems so pointless. HMU if you ever want someone to talk with though.

asveikau 7y ago

> I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids. This pops out to me. I don't know your full circumstances but I don't think this is true. If we focus only on the attractiveness aspect: I've known plenty of people of both genders who I thought were "unattractive" people (a very subjective term!) and they were partnered. If your desire is to find a partner, don't give up on it or consider it an inevitable failure! You are worthy. Then it makes me consider if there's some other health issue preventing finding a partner or having a kid? Surely, a few of those exist, and I can imagine them being very sad.

0xffff2 7y ago
I think it's important to distinguish physical attraction from net total attraction. Usually when people say "attractive" they mean the former, but I think GP may mean the latter. I'm probably about average physically, but I have my own set of personality issues that make me pretty damn unattractive on the whole. I doubt I would be interested in anyone who was so fucked up that they were interested in me. I've come to terms with my situation and I'm not the least be suicidal, but I think it's important to tread carefully when talking about this stuff online, where you have so little context. Someone who says "I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids" has probably thought about it more than you have, and certainly knows their own situation much better than you do. I think it's extremely unhelpful to give them platitudes like "You are worthy". Maybe they are, but you're really not in a position to know.
- asveikau 7y ago
  It's quaint that you think you cannot apply a nonphysical meaning for "attractive" to my comment and see that the point still stands. I think you're probably wrong about yourself too. And yes I did call out that I don't know the full circumstances.
  - 0xffff2 7y ago
    And I think it's very presumptuous of you to think that you know my own circumstances better than I do. Both of your comments are, frankly, condescending to a degree I find slightly insulting and I have no further desire to continue this conversation.

umvi 7y ago

> I'm never going to be an attractive man, so I'll never have love, or a wife and kids. At a certain point though everybody becomes unattractive. Do you think old couples still look attractive? There's love out there for you if you are willing to invest in it. Sure, you might not be super attracted to their looks initially, but over time you become attracted to the person, which transcends superficial properties of people. Do you think I would stop loving my wife if she got in a car accident and became super unattractive because of burn scarring? Of course not! Love is an investment... you get out what you put in.

otterpop 7y ago

I feel it, man. I'm financially stable at the job I was aiming for in college, but now it feels like I'm just going through the motions every day. Not interested in love and not able to dedicate the amount of time and effort to my hobbies that I would need to be great at them. It just seems so pointless. HMU if you ever want someone to talk with though.