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We owe voting rights and statehood to the native nations we colonized during the past three centuries.
by lidHanteyk 7y ago
We owe voting rights and statehood to the native nations we colonized during the past three centuries.
- Nasrudith 7y agoAgreed - allowing a native nation or a coalition of them if too small (say roughly the least populous other state as Threshold) to be new States with 2 Senators is the least they deserve. Contingent on their collectively desire for such an arrangement of course as agency is important and well -learning from history of nations arising from arbitrary divisions causing problems.
- pnw_hazor 7y agoI doubt they would want to be states.
- javert 7y agoThis is a very collectivist and racist view. We are all Americans here. According to another comment, the Oklahoma Cherokee are very entrepreneurial and successful in business. They probably want to be treated like Americans instead of being treated like a racist charity project.
- protomyth 7y agoI am pretty sure they want the treaty honored and want their tribal rights as promised. They didn't exactly vote to become citizens, that was a decision made by the government, but a high percentage have served this country well. They understand the duality of country and tribe / nation.
- javert 7y ago> I am pretty sure they want the treaty honored and want their tribal rights as promised. They were promised a delegate to Congress. Not statehood, which is what I'm responding to. I think they should get their delegate if they want it, just because it's the law. None of us voted to become citizens.
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- nyolfen 7y agowe owe them citizenship and the corresponding political representation.
- theandrewbailey 7y agoThat was done almost a century ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act
- thatoneuser 7y agoTribes are sovereign nations already.
- natalyarostova 7y agoWhy? Why does a conquering group owe the people they conquered anything at all?
- Gaelan 7y agoBecause we recognize that we were evil and want to make amends.
- natalyarostova 7y agoI wasn't evil. Were you? Human history is littered with blood and conquest. Trying to settle the score seems pointless; we should instead (I propose) recognize that we are all individuals without historical guilt and work together to build a better future.
- pryce 7y agoIdeas don't exist in a vacuum; they emerge from concrete relations of production and power. They serve or hinder the interests of people and groups. 'Wiping the slate clean' is a noble path to peace when both sides have done something wrong; it is a far less noble idea when the injustice was severely one-sided, instead it can actually make the injustice worse. Suppose someone had -unprovoked- attacked you violently and and taken your home and possessions, and then moved his family into what used to be your home. Then suppose his family, still living in that house and intending to continue doing so, suddenly proposed 'wiping the slate clean'. Would you be right in suspecting their proposal of 'wiping the slate clean' to be in this case completely self-serving?
- wtdata 7y agoI hope you do realize that they were conquerors themselves (between the tribes) and that many tribes happily fought besides the Europeans in order to gain the upper hand over other tribes, specifically, the Cherokee: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee It also begs the question: What are the Romans and the Arabs going to give my country in return for having conquered us 2000 and 1000 years ago, respectively.