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If you believe in keto, then it's the consumption of whole fats, not necessarily dairy, that "lowers risk of mortality." You don't need to consume dairy to be

by tempsy 7y ago

If you believe in keto, then it's the consumption of whole fats, not necessarily dairy, that "lowers risk of mortality." You don't need to consume dairy to be on keto.

graeme 7y ago
....the people in the study were not on a ketogenic diet. Ketosis vs. non-ketosis is a big step change. The central premise of keto re: fat is “fats are good....because they lead to ketosis” You’re reasoning wildly outside of the study here.
- TheRealSteel 7y ago
  Keto (and a lack of surprise) came to my mind when I read the title too, but your point is important for anyone learning about the ketogenic diet - keto is a binary state, you're either in it or you're not (and you can do a urine test at home to tell). There are still benefits to cutting carbs without going full keto, but not because you'll be '50% keto' or anything, just because there are other health improvements from lowering carbohydrate intake other than possible ketosis.
  - spraak 7y ago
    Most of the longest living people eat a high (complex) carbohydrate diet. What benefit do you see in lowering carbohydrate intake, unless you're conflating e.g. processed white bread with sweet potatoes?
    - gif653490 7y ago
      These are very short, low IQ populations though, and i'm not. (Kitavas,Tsimane,Okinawans which again they have one of the lowest IQ & Height levels per prefecture in Japan) >What benefit do you see in lowering carbohydrate intake, unless you're conflating e.g. processed white bread with sweet potatoes? Being able to control my weight, my appetite, much improved HbA1c, lower LDL/TG levels, increased energy levels, no more food cravings, and fasting as part of my daily life. whereas none of these was possible on my high Complex carbs years, and i'm not talking for white bread but whole grains, beans and legumes.
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didibus 7y ago
I never saw any claim or study relating Keto with lower chances of mortality, got any?

by tempsy 7y ago

If you believe in keto, then it's the consumption of whole fats, not necessarily dairy, that "lowers risk of mortality." You don't need to consume dairy to be on keto.

graeme 7y ago

....the people in the study were not on a ketogenic diet. Ketosis vs. non-ketosis is a big step change. The central premise of keto re: fat is “fats are good....because they lead to ketosis” You’re reasoning wildly outside of the study here.

TheRealSteel 7y ago
Keto (and a lack of surprise) came to my mind when I read the title too, but your point is important for anyone learning about the ketogenic diet - keto is a binary state, you're either in it or you're not (and you can do a urine test at home to tell). There are still benefits to cutting carbs without going full keto, but not because you'll be '50% keto' or anything, just because there are other health improvements from lowering carbohydrate intake other than possible ketosis.
- spraak 7y ago
  Most of the longest living people eat a high (complex) carbohydrate diet. What benefit do you see in lowering carbohydrate intake, unless you're conflating e.g. processed white bread with sweet potatoes?
  - gif653490 7y ago
    These are very short, low IQ populations though, and i'm not. (Kitavas,Tsimane,Okinawans which again they have one of the lowest IQ & Height levels per prefecture in Japan) >What benefit do you see in lowering carbohydrate intake, unless you're conflating e.g. processed white bread with sweet potatoes? Being able to control my weight, my appetite, much improved HbA1c, lower LDL/TG levels, increased energy levels, no more food cravings, and fasting as part of my daily life. whereas none of these was possible on my high Complex carbs years, and i'm not talking for white bread but whole grains, beans and legumes.

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didibus 7y ago

I never saw any claim or study relating Keto with lower chances of mortality, got any?