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> This question has been studied for over 100 years and the answer is ALWAYS NO. I always hear this brought up, but I’m not sure one should be so confident in

> This question has been studied for over 100 years and the answer is ALWAYS NO. I always hear this brought up, but I’m not sure one should be so confident in that conclusion. The answer could always be “no”, but that doesn’t mean the answer is right. Using obviously-incomplete data to come to a conclusion like that seems to imply an agenda. An honest answer would be “we really don’t know”. If most illegal aliens don’t report the crimes of other illegal aliens, isn’t there a possibility that illegal aliens do commit more crime than US persons? There certainly is! Also, look further into the murder imprisonment rate differences between illegal aliens and US persons. https://bongino.com/do-illegal-aliens-really-commit-fewer-crimes/ https://bongino.com/do-illegal-aliens-really-commit-fewer-cr...

ltbarcly3 7y ago
> I always hear this brought up, but I’m not sure one should be so confident in that conclusion. I can't explain how statistics work in a post on hackernews, but you should understand that it is possible to quantify uncertainty, and authors of studies are asking the same questions you are when they think about their data. Well, maybe some authors of some studies are morons or have a political axe to grind, but when basically all the studies agree that is called a strong consensus and whenever a consensus exists in a field there are people trying very hard to overturn it. Overturning an accepted 'truth' in a field will basically make your career, it is highly significant, and this is partly what keeps science on the right track. So we can be about as confident in this as we can in anything. Also conservative talk radio isn't a reputable source to quote, mostly because political pundits (on both sides) lie almost all the time. It's basically their job description.

ltbarcly3 7y ago

> I always hear this brought up, but I’m not sure one should be so confident in that conclusion. I can't explain how statistics work in a post on hackernews, but you should understand that it is possible to quantify uncertainty, and authors of studies are asking the same questions you are when they think about their data. Well, maybe some authors of some studies are morons or have a political axe to grind, but when basically all the studies agree that is called a strong consensus and whenever a consensus exists in a field there are people trying very hard to overturn it. Overturning an accepted 'truth' in a field will basically make your career, it is highly significant, and this is partly what keeps science on the right track. So we can be about as confident in this as we can in anything. Also conservative talk radio isn't a reputable source to quote, mostly because political pundits (on both sides) lie almost all the time. It's basically their job description.