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by dictum 7y ago

Paywalled (FT) https://www.ft.com/content/f791bbc6-c2c3-11e9-a8e9-296ca66511c9 https://www.ft.com/content/f791bbc6-c2c3-11e9-a8e9-296ca6651... > “The fact is that laws and regulations that were enacted and used for the past 10 or 20 years were too restrictive to the development of Amazon areas. That is why people go over to the illegal activities, to the criminal activities, because they don’t have a space to do something within the law,” Ricardo Salles said in an interview with the Financial Times.

hu3 7y ago
I like the idea! Tourism is a great way to fund preservation.
- dictum 7y ago
  This can work for smaller areas. Tourists get to see the result of preservation because can experience almost the full extent of the territory. However, for a larger area of which most parts are boring, unsafe and hard to reach, it's hard to cover preservation with such funds. Bolsonaro is unhappy with one such arrangement, covering a much smaller area: visitors pay a $50 fee, collected by the federal government, to enter the archipelago of Fernando de Noronha for a 10 day stay. He wants to the abolish the fee. Given his general outlook on taxes, I don't see how tourism could fund preservation, except for increasing its scale to a predatory level. https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2019/07/taxa-de-fernando-de-noronha-e-roubo-diz-bolsonaro.shtml https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2019/07/taxa-de-fern... (in Portuguese)
- chiefalchemist 7y ago
  But doesn't air travel generate a lot of carbon? I heard a quote a couple days ago that was along the libes of: A flight from NY to LA generates as much emissions as a person does all year. But it wasn't clear to me if that the entire jet or one travel's slice of the jet; vs what they expend otherwise.
Carioca 7y ago
Doesn't help that their policies resulted in Germany and Norway freezing their investments to a Fund that did precisely that, subsidize the creation of sustainable business models in the Amazon https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/753836508/why-norway-and-germany-have-frozen-money-going-to-the-amazon-fund https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/753836508/why-norway-and-germ...
ajmurmann 7y ago
Can someone explain why the amazon area needs to be developed at all? If there is no opportunity for development in the amazon area, people should move to where the opportunities are, rather than destroying such a unique and valuable area.
- neves 7y ago
  Well, we live in a capitalist society where accumulating riches is everyone's main objective. Brazil was a great project called the Amazon Fund. It would improve the lives of the people of the region, without destroying the forest. The fund was supported by Norway and German. The far-right government didn't like that money were not destined to the big agro-business and is closing it. Literally throwing money away.

by dictum 7y ago

hu3 7y ago

I like the idea! Tourism is a great way to fund preservation.

dictum 7y ago
This can work for smaller areas. Tourists get to see the result of preservation because can experience almost the full extent of the territory. However, for a larger area of which most parts are boring, unsafe and hard to reach, it's hard to cover preservation with such funds. Bolsonaro is unhappy with one such arrangement, covering a much smaller area: visitors pay a $50 fee, collected by the federal government, to enter the archipelago of Fernando de Noronha for a 10 day stay. He wants to the abolish the fee. Given his general outlook on taxes, I don't see how tourism could fund preservation, except for increasing its scale to a predatory level. https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2019/07/taxa-de-fernando-de-noronha-e-roubo-diz-bolsonaro.shtml https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2019/07/taxa-de-fern... (in Portuguese)
chiefalchemist 7y ago
But doesn't air travel generate a lot of carbon? I heard a quote a couple days ago that was along the libes of: A flight from NY to LA generates as much emissions as a person does all year. But it wasn't clear to me if that the entire jet or one travel's slice of the jet; vs what they expend otherwise.

Carioca 7y ago

Doesn't help that their policies resulted in Germany and Norway freezing their investments to a Fund that did precisely that, subsidize the creation of sustainable business models in the Amazon https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/753836508/why-norway-and-germany-have-frozen-money-going-to-the-amazon-fund https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/753836508/why-norway-and-germ...

ajmurmann 7y ago

Can someone explain why the amazon area needs to be developed at all? If there is no opportunity for development in the amazon area, people should move to where the opportunities are, rather than destroying such a unique and valuable area.

neves 7y ago
Well, we live in a capitalist society where accumulating riches is everyone's main objective. Brazil was a great project called the Amazon Fund. It would improve the lives of the people of the region, without destroying the forest. The fund was supported by Norway and German. The far-right government didn't like that money were not destined to the big agro-business and is closing it. Literally throwing money away.