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Here, take your mortadela sandwich.

• guilhas 7y ago
  Ok right wing evangelist with 0 arguments.
  • andrenth 7y ago
    There are multiple pieces of evidence of corruption practiced by Lula. That includes documents (found at Lula’s apartment!), witnesses and circumstantial evidence. Lula declared having payed R$ 47k for his two-story apartment (in income tax forms!), while a neighbor payed over R$ 900k. Lula’s three-story apartment is the only in the building to include a private elevator, a request he made himself to the construction company (OAS) owner, who is also in jail. The apartment’s kitchen had enhancements made, payed by OAS by Lula’s request. There were messages found on OAS’ owner’s and employees’ phones that mention the apartment and other property as belonging to Lula and his wife. Yet despite all this Lula shamelessly claims he wasn’t related at all to the apartment, that it wasn’t his. The defense claims he isn’t the owner because there are no documents putting his name on it. Now this is laughable because, because the conviction is for concealment of property. By the very nature of the crime, evidence has to be mostly circumstantial. People are free to believe whatever their ideological preferences make them feel good. However, claiming this conviction, confirmed by multiple instances of Brazilian justice, unanimously, by a dozen judges, happened with “zero proof” is misleading (to say the least).
• dang 7y ago
  This comment breaks the site guidelines. Can you please review them and use HN as intended? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: we've had to ask you multiple times not to do political flamewar on HN. Please don't use this site for political battle, even if other commenters are wrong or annoying. It destroys the intellectual curiosity that HN exists for.